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An Observation About diversity on Discovery, 32nd Century
- Thread starter Dryson
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I feel like I missed something regarding the whole DNA mutation thing. And if I missed an obscure detail in Trek then something's clearly wrong.
No, you haven't.
That's what I assumed. 
I'D REMEMBER THIS.
I'D REMEMBER THIS.
[*Superman drinking gif*]
And they set up in Toronto because of the diversity of available actors, among other reasons.
Yeah, none of that is going to happen.
Why is it that every time diversity in casting comes up, people jump to the "more aliens!" track?
I didn't jump to anything; I responded to a specific post about aliens.
Humans being the audience may have something to do with that. just a stab in the dark.
The F has an Andorian captain in Star Trek Online, and I think Worf had a turn on the E.
For now. Can't stop the signal...
Because Starfleet is supposed to be a multi-species organization, not a human-led empire. That we're told that Starfleet is an equal-opportunity service but shown only humans could be seen as analogous to being told that any person could go to a given college (or serve in a military rank, be doctors, ect.) and then just see a bunch of white dudes.
The fact of the matter is, within the Trekverse aliens are the allegorical reference to non-whites and/or people from non-western cultures. That's what they're there for. It might matter a lot that Michael Burnham is a black captain to viewers, but it doesn't matter one whit to those within the show's universe, because it's an explicitly race blind setting. If you want to actually have stories about tolerance and inclusion, you have to show characters bridging gaps that are hard for them, not doing what comes as second nature.
Edit: I should say that I think there are plenty of settings where having all/almost all humans is completely forgivable. But Star Trek is not one of them. It's been built into the DNA of the show by this point that we'll all join hands into one big mélange of culture which spreads across the galaxy. Not actually showing this in practice betrays this ideal.
I see that ending poorly...for some reason.
I think I saw a historical documentary on it.
Bang! You totally missed the point.
Follow this: no one is unrepresented or in any way slighted by the producers not footing the bill to glue plastic on some featured background player's face.
No one.
Concerns about diversity and representation are not the same as fannish fascination with foam rubber people.
Because some fans find it easier to relate fictional aliens than humans who are slightly different than them.
Given some of the comments spoken by Trek fans it's a near-miracle they can relate to a bag of generic cereal.
Shows can do both you know. I mean, on DS9 O'Brien was the only white human who was a regular character. And of course you can always hire POC and put them in full silicone mask makeup if you wish. Of course, it won't help with representation issues, but you specifically mentioned casting, which is different from characters.
Regardless, the comment you were replying to was explicitly about not enough aliens in the background scenes at Starfleet HQ. This isn't a new problem for Trek, but it was much more notable on DIscovery than in the past, because without Earth there was even less reason to have humans (or beings that looked functionally identical to humans) dominating Starfleet.
IMHO it would have been a much, much better choice to find out uptime Starfleet was dominated by Cardassians and Ferengi or something. Because it would show us that the Federation was about loyalty to ideals which transcend race, rather than being some human-dominated polity.
He hasn't actually seen the third season of Discovery. So there's a good chance the thread title caught his eye and he dove in to scratch an itch. And maybe if we saw him arguing the "right" argument, we'd think, "He's not so bad!"
It's all bullshit. All of it.
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