It's amazing the lengths people will go to ignore this while still harping on about 1996.
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Eugenics Wars and World War III aren't always considered to be the same conflict.
It's a bit murky. Spock says the Eugenics Wars was the last of the World Wars.
Spock calls the Eugenics War the last World War taking place in the mid-90s.
SPOCK: No such vessel listed. Records of that period are fragmentary, however. The mid=1990s was the era of your last so-called World War.
MCCOY: The Eugenics Wars.
So unless Spock was lying, TNG later retconned in another World War after it in the mid 2000s, meaning it's no longer the last world war.
Which then SNW made part of the same series of conflicts as the Eugenics Wars solving the issue.
Spock also says the augments were created via selective breeding (Kirk later says 'controlled genetics'), not modifying their genes, so that's another retcon made in later series.
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Case in point.
Umm…no.
The dialog is clear to me. The Next Generation changed it, and made it a nuclear exchange, plus a post atomic horror.
Seems quite the retcon. James R. Kirk would never make that mistake
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I was under the impression that TNG just split eugenics War and world War 3 into two separate conflicts. One in the 90s, one in the mid 21st. Possibly grouped together colloquially, but not moving the eugenics war or Khan's origin.
Yeah, no. The tiny group of people it actually would please are parts of the fandom who should be thoroughly ignored.
And yet..... we've had multiple episodes travel back to the 90s and early 2000s that show zero signs of any kind of Global conflict. Future's End, Past Tense, 11:59, Carpenter Street. Not a single mention or sign of either the Eugenics Wars, or the level of technology required for Khan to exile himself.
It was pretty clearly stated that the Eugenics War was the last World War and every series since TNG has made that a mid 21st century conflict. So you can either ignore the 90s dates from Space Seed and WoK, or you can ignore the rest of the franchise from 1987 and onward.
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Psst. I think you meant Future's End, the Voyager two-parter where they end up on 1990s Earth. Future Tense was an Enterprise episode where they find a TARDIS like time pod from the future.
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She also had a Talosian action figure. We gonna say that means something?
However way you want to spin it, that’s still a retcon that contradicts TOS
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