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‘Star Trek: Strange New Worlds’ Renewed for Fifth and Final Season

We don't know what "they" want at all. Skydance isn't in charge yet.

Skydance has nothing to do with CBS/Paramount+’s actions so far. All five shows cancelled/ended prematurely/written off for tax reasons/etc., one show whose future is uncertain, and zero theatrical films on the horizon. Seems pretty clear to me how they feel about Star Trek.

And if Skydance actually does buy Paramount Global, there’s no indication that they will want to continue CBS’s money-losing way of doing things.

And they ain’t making a 25 episode-per-season network Star Trek series. That’s quite a fantasy.
 
This news might make season 3 a more poignant watch given that Pike's accident seems a lot closer than what many people might have hoped for. The impending end of the show could be said to be analagous to Pike's situation as well.

For me, I obviously wish there would be more seasons but I agree with the point that was made earlier - at least the writers know when it will end and the show won't be unfinished.
 
Skydance has nothing to do with CBS/Paramount+’s actions so far. All five shows cancelled/ended prematurely/written off for tax reasons/etc., one show whose future is uncertain, and zero theatrical films on the horizon. Seems pretty clear to me how they feel about Star Trek.

And if Skydance actually does buy Paramount Global, there’s no indication that they will want to continue CBS’s money-losing way of doing things.

And they ain’t making a 25 episode-per-season network Star Trek series. That’s quite a fantasy.

I'd argue that if Paramount+ can't find a way to make money on Star Trek, they likely can't make money off of anything (excepting the Yellowstone franchise I guess, which is way cheaper to produce).

Also, franchise cutbacks are happening across the industry right now (See Disney's scaling back of the MCU) so this isn't anything particular to Paramount or Star Trek.
 
Skydance has nothing to do with CBS/Paramount+’s actions so far. All five shows cancelled/ended prematurely/written off for tax reasons/etc., one show whose future is uncertain, and zero theatrical films on the horizon. Seems pretty clear to me how they feel about Star Trek.

And if Skydance actually does buy Paramount Global, there’s no indication that they will want to continue CBS’s money-losing way of doing things.

And they ain’t making a 25 episode-per-season network Star Trek series. That’s quite a fantasy.

1. Discovery - Canceled, but ran a fairly robust five seasons

2. Lower Decks - Canceled, but ran a fairly robust five seasons

3. Picard - Ended at three seasons, as was planned

4. Strange New Worlds - “Canceled”, but given a fifth season to wrap; another case of a fairly robust five seasons, and hard to really say whether it’s ending prematurely save for the fact that the final season will have its length clipped

5. Prodigy - Canceled, and definitely a failed project relative to its aims

6. Starfleet Academy - Still to come; planned for at least two seasons, but obviously, no way of knowing anything save for the extreme likelihood that we see its first, and the fair likelihood that we see its second

My point in all of this is, simply, that I don’t think Star Trek is in total trouble. There’s so much up in the air with the Skydance deal not yet having closed, and so much more that’ll be a big question mark if and when they’re in charge.

What I do think - and this is, of course, self-evident - is that there will be far less Star Trek on our screens in the years to come than there were for a few glorious years back there. There’s no reason to think things will get that good again in the remotely foreseeable future. But, crucially, nor am I quite so certain that it’s all coming to a close. A single ongoing show - that might be the norm again. And it could last for years and years to come.

Or not! Who knows. I’m in the “cautiously optimistic that it won’t go away completely” phase at this point.
 
I'd argue that if Paramount+ can't find a way to make money on Star Trek, they likely can't make money off of anything (excepting the Yellowstone franchise I guess, which is way cheaper to produce).

Also, franchise cutbacks are happening across the industry right now (See Disney's scaling back of the MCU) so this isn't anything particular to Paramount or Star Trek.

I dunno about this. Landman got 1.3 billion minutes viewed for its finale week. Picard’s finale got 400 million. U.S. figures only, but I think it paints a picture. Star Trek is doing fine, but Paramount+ now has a relative wealth of stronger performers. Maybe it’s not just Yellowstone; maybe it’s every dang thing Taylor Sheridan touches, lol.
 
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Paramount doesn't have many big franchises to work with.

Star Trek feels like it is slowly winding down.
Mission Impossible had its final film.
Naked Gun is having a remake coming out this year.
 
The flop of Section 31 may have killed the idea of TV Trek films.

"The reason for the disastrous failure of our Real Good Idea was that we did it wrong last time. We'll do it right next time and it'll be a big success" doesn't really sell anyone.
 
I dunno about this. Landman got 1.3 billion minutes viewed for its finale week. Picard’s finale got 400 million. U.S. figures only, but I think it paints a picture. Star Trek is doing fine, but Paramount+ now has a relative wealth of stronger performers. Maybe it’s not just Yellowstone; maybe it’s every dang thing Taylor Sheridan touches, lol.
I mean, you go with what sells. Right now, based upon my unscientific observations, Star Trek is not popular enough to warrant spending money on it. Fans talk down on it on the regular, insult production teams, and have a list of complaints for every positive.

Why waste money and time that they don't have on something people don't appear to want? :vulcan:
 
I suspect season 5 will start off with various promotions including Una off to do something else, Pike handing the reins to Kirk, and then over the next few episodes we see Kirk settling into command of the Enterprise while Pike is off doing Fleet Captainy stuff, and ending up with the accident.

I would love to see it end with the entire no man has gone before cast in place. Give me Lee kelso, Gary mitchell, lieutenant alden, Dr Piper, Sulu the astrophysicist, etc. Add some weight to the pilot of TOS. Let us know what we are about to lose. Maybe even end it with Dr Dehner transferring on.
 
Why would they do that when it seems clear that they don’t want to produce more Trek?
Yeah having S&W season 4 in production currently filming, getting a commitment to a six episode season 5; and still having Starfleet Academy Season 2 prepping to start filming after SNW season 4 filming concludes sure indicates Paramount has given up on producing new Star Trek. Oh, wait..

Hell they okay'd SNW season 4 before season 3 started filming; and snw season 5 while season 4 is still filming and before season 3 has even streamed.

Paramount is no stranger to killing expensive shows they don't feel have a future (see Halo).

The fact they've committed so heavily to Strange New Worlds even in the midst of a merger situation that could see the end of the studio if it doesn't happen pretty much so they must have a lot of faith remaining in Star Trek to keep throwing money and resources at it.
 
The fact they've committed so heavily to Strange New Worlds even in the midst of a merger situation that could see the end of the studio if it doesn't happen pretty much so they must have a lot of faith remaining in Star Trek to keep throwing money and resources at it.

So why didn't they do the same thing with DSC, LDS, and PRO? Why didn't they continue PIC with Legacy? Why can't Paramount make a theatrical Trek film to save their lives?
 
So why didn't they do the same thing with DSC, LDS, and PRO? Why didn't they continue PIC with Legacy? Why can't Paramount make a theatrical Trek film to save their lives?
I gather the Legacy issue came down to timing with the WGA and SAG strikes hitting right when Picard season 3 came out. By the time the strikes were over, the heat had cooled off and Matalas/Paramount moved on from each other.
 
So why didn't they do the same thing with DSC, LDS, and PRO? Why didn't they continue PIC with Legacy? Why can't Paramount make a theatrical Trek film to save their lives?
Because they weren't getting the ratings that SNW and STD were getting and with respect to Picard, going forward it was never going to be TNG 2.0 assuming they went beyond season 3 which is the only thing that got Picard any real ratings.
 
Because they weren't getting the ratings that SNW and STD were getting and with respect to Picard, going forward it was never going to be TNG 2.0 assuming they went beyond season 3 which is the only thing that got Picard any real ratings.

No, it was Chabon who said PIC wasn't going to be TNG 2.0. That changed when Matalas took over.
 
No, it was Chabon who said PIC wasn't going to be TNG 2.0. That changed when Matalas took over.
It was Patrick Stewart who said he didn't want to do TNG 2.0. As for doing it in season 3; they all did it as a swan song to TNG. Again, there was no way they were going to do a season 4 with all of them suddenly reprising their roles again into another adventure.

Season 3 was the original TNG crew send off.

A Jerry Ryan led Star Trek series had about as much chance of bringing in a big audience as a George Takei Star Trek series did. (George Takei was hoping the Voyager Flashback episode what lead to a series for him. It never happened because the studio knew he couldn't carry one. And that's the same situation for Jeri Ryan.)

The large draw in viewership for Picard season 3 was because it was the send-off of the TNG crew.
 
It was Patrick Stewart who said he didn't want to do TNG 2.0. As for doing it in season 3; they all did it as a swan song to TNG. Again, there was no way they were going to do a season 4 with all of them suddenly reprising their roles again into another adventure.

If the show got stellar ratings, that would have absolutely happened.

A Jerry Ryan led Star Trek series had about as much chance of bringing in a big audience as a George Takei Star Trek series did. (George Takei was hoping the Voyager Flashback episode what lead to a series for him. It never happened because the studio knew he couldn't carry one. And that's the same situation for Jeri Ryan.)

Jeri Ryan wasn't the problem. The problem was Matalas wanting to make the show Star Trek: Memberberries.

The large draw in viewership for Picard season 3 was because it was the send-off of the TNG crew.

So one would think that if they continued, that viewership would just increase. Yet CBS/P+ didn't do that.
 
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