Even if we only get the already announced stuff, the Kurtzman era will have lasted a decade by the time it's all done. Not too shabby.
‘Star Trek: Strange New Worlds’ Renewed for Fifth and Final Season
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Just to clarify, TRACKER is also a terrestrial network show. Had it been streaming, we’d only get 10 episodes each year.
Not a surprise. We still have the equivalent of a Berman-length season still to see. I’m ok with it.
I think it was 18 or 19, but yeah, this season alone, I watched Matlock, NCIS Origins, Tracker and The Irrational, all of which had full seasons of at least 18 episodes.
There is no way the final 6 episodes will have the budget of 10 episodes. The GAME OF THRONES example doesn't fly in the current era of streaming.
First, GAME OF THRONES was still in the middle of the popularity of the streaming era... unlike now, where it seems to be hitting a wall. Second, HBO had a LOT more money to throw around back then than Paramount has now.
If anything, the final 6 episodes will have a smaller budget than what they get currently get.
Bro that's cool that there doing season five
Good way to look at it.
It's literally more though.
Giving them an order now, albeit shorter than previous seasons, allows them to tell the end to their story.
Given the parlous state of Paramount we should all be grateful for that.
I suspect season 5 will start off with various promotions including Una off to do something else, Pike handing the reins to Kirk, and then over the next few episodes we see Kirk settling into command of the Enterprise while Pike is off doing Fleet Captainy stuff, and ending up with the accident.
You streaming guys are spoilt. Especially Star Trek fans. You have 3 seasons worth of SNWs to come. The show will end on season 5 with a shorter episode count but at least they get to end it on their own terms and have plenty of time to plan out a satisfying ending. It's not like 'Enterprise' where they find out mid season that they got cancelled and have to wrap the show up and 18 years of continuous Star Trek with a ham-fisted final episode. It's not like 'Battlestar Galactica' where they had to wait each season to find out if they'd be cancelled or renewed with the writers finally not willing to risk going beyond 4 seasons in case it all ended. Strange New Worlds even got it better than Discovery did and at least even Discovery got to go back and do an ending for the show. All Star Trek shows we've had since 2017 have ended on a pretty darn satisfying note with no unresolved cliffhangers in sight. Try being a 'Firefly' fan or a 'Sarah Conner Chronicles' fan or 'Crusade' fan or a 'Blake's 7' fan. Try watching 'Space Above and Beyond' in an era without the internet. Imagine watching the last episode and thinking "Wow! I can't wait to see where this goes next!" and then waiting in anticipation, and waiting, and then after a year or so later coming to the realization that "oh, it's not coming back".
You don't know how good you have it.
Anyway... I'm not surprised it's ending this soon (like soon after 3 seasons, sheesh!)
It was an expensive show. It's on a streamer in a highly competitive streaming market. There's a merger on the horizon and contracts coming to an end. Personally, I loved season 1, was highly disappointed by season 2.
You don't know how good you have it.
Anyway... I'm not surprised it's ending this soon (like soon after 3 seasons, sheesh!)
It was an expensive show. It's on a streamer in a highly competitive streaming market. There's a merger on the horizon and contracts coming to an end. Personally, I loved season 1, was highly disappointed by season 2.
Disco's sets have already been torn down, and in fact were being torn down at the same time the epilogue was being filmed. And we know one of the sets built for the Academy is the largest and most expensive set ever built for the Star Trek franchise.
Yeah. Too bad they are canceling it after so few episodes. We'll be at what 46? Took a long time to get that many. I also fear the show has just became a vehicle to get the TOS crew together. It's mostly the TOS crew at this point.
Especially given most content gets complained about. Now it comes across as complaining that there will be no new content to complain about.
Knew this would be the case. 5 seasons is the new 7. A lot of people said when Disco was cancelled after S5 that didn't mean SNW would finish after 5 too, but I think it is just the way things are now.
The bit that is a genuine surprise to me is the 6 episodes part - that's a shocker. I wonder if there was a conversation about whether S5 would happen at all, and the 6 additional episodes was a negotiated outcome. It will be interesting to see if those 6 episodes get rolled into the S4 production schedule.
The bit that is a genuine surprise to me is the 6 episodes part - that's a shocker. I wonder if there was a conversation about whether S5 would happen at all, and the 6 additional episodes was a negotiated outcome. It will be interesting to see if those 6 episodes get rolled into the S4 production schedule.
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Given how frequently folks on TrekBBS race to point out how relatively old they are, and reckoning that the average 2025 Star Trek fan isn’t exactly fresh out of college, I dare say almost everybody in this topic knows what it used to be like!
It also needs to be noted that HBO wanted at that time full 10-episode seasons (and reportedly at least ten seasons). GOT was cut short because the showrunners believed they had better opportunities elsewhere, like doing Star Wars movies, and wanted to wrap things up quickly rather than handing it over to Bryan Cogman or someone else.
I agree that there's little chance that shorter means what's left will be longer/higher budget, with the probable exception of the finale.
I still think it's possible that this is just the end of SNW in name only, and the characters from TOS might just transition straight into a new show with Wesley Kirk. Remains to be seen, I suppose.
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If they are smart they will follow up SNW with the Kirk show, but aired on CBS, so we get a full length season. It's been long enough since Discovery that the general audience will tune in out of curiosity. Plus they get the Kirk and Spock name recognition for promotional purposes.
This feels like a recipe for a ratings disaster, imo. I truly do not believe that something like Star Trek stands a chance on network television anymore. Not with Kirk and Spock, even.
Obviously, I can only prove it if they do it, which I would be shocked by. So, I guess it’s a moot point.
Why would they do that when it seems clear that they don’t want to produce more Trek?
We don't know what "they" want at all. Skydance isn't in charge yet.
The first episode of a new series always gets tons of eyeballs, even Discovery. The curiosity is there, it's a matter of getting people to stick around.
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