I fully expect they're going to get Telford--in his own body--aboard Destiny.
SG-U – Subversion (1x18) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)
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Oh, and no montage this week. Didn't notice until after I saw the episode.
That brief shot of him in the season 1.5 teaser trailer seemed to indicate so, although Rush's hallucinations in "Pain" were also featured in the trailer, and seemed to indicate an alien invasion of Destiny, which we now know to be far more exciting than what actually happened.
Oh, I noticed its absence. The episode was much better for it, too.
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Yes, it's really hard to predict what's going to happen.
Rush is going to complete the formulal, and as soon as he's about to die, Young (or possibly the Asian chick; I can never remember her boring ass's name) will deactivate the stone, causing them to switch back. Once he's back in his body, Telford will join the Lucian Alliance when they use the formula to dial the stargate and come aboard.
This show is not very complex in its writing.
Rush is going to complete the formulal, and as soon as he's about to die, Young (or possibly the Asian chick; I can never remember her boring ass's name) will deactivate the stone, causing them to switch back. Once he's back in his body, Telford will join the Lucian Alliance when they use the formula to dial the stargate and come aboard.
This show is not very complex in its writing.
Good episode! Was good seeing Telford again and kinda makes sense he was the spy and now it makes sense how the LA will get aboard the Destiny does this also mean then when Earth takes over the other Icarus planet will they be able to send supplies?
Oh and still can't get over how fat RDA looks these days.
Oh and still can't get over how fat RDA looks these days.
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Best episode of SGU so far!
Best episode of SGU so far!
Decent episode, and the best use of the stones in the show so far. Although they had to bend the rules again and give Rush that extremely useful dream, and then the technobabble about the stones leaving some trace of each user in other people's minds.
Two questions need to be answered though.
1) Is Telford acting as an LA spy on his own, or was he brainwashed? Hopefully he is doing it on his own, the brainwashed trope is a lame way out. If he is doing it out of his own motivations they need to be more fleshed out then the little speech he gave in this episode. Why does he think aiding the LA is going to help the humans in the Milky Way? SGU has the chance to create a truly sympthatic villian if they write Telford with some reasonable motivations.
2) Why is the LA so hellbent on getting to Destiny? Telford has presumably told them about Destiny. So why do they want to go to a broken down old rust bucket of a ship that is thousands of years away and offers no discernable technological advancements to them? The LA from what we know of them want technology and power. The Asgard database and Atlantis, both presumably still on Earth would be far easier targets to attack and the gain would be much higher.
Hopefully the two part finale will answer both questions.
Two questions need to be answered though.
1) Is Telford acting as an LA spy on his own, or was he brainwashed? Hopefully he is doing it on his own, the brainwashed trope is a lame way out. If he is doing it out of his own motivations they need to be more fleshed out then the little speech he gave in this episode. Why does he think aiding the LA is going to help the humans in the Milky Way? SGU has the chance to create a truly sympthatic villian if they write Telford with some reasonable motivations.
2) Why is the LA so hellbent on getting to Destiny? Telford has presumably told them about Destiny. So why do they want to go to a broken down old rust bucket of a ship that is thousands of years away and offers no discernable technological advancements to them? The LA from what we know of them want technology and power. The Asgard database and Atlantis, both presumably still on Earth would be far easier targets to attack and the gain would be much higher.
Hopefully the two part finale will answer both questions.
I think it's good in character episodes, where a montage can provide exposition as to changes in mood and attitude amongst the crew.
In plot episodes, it's not really needed unless, at the end, you want to show the immediate effect of the action on the characters and their emotions/thoughts.
Well, if this screen shot from the 1.5 trailer is any indication...
After this episode, I am assuming that was really Telford in Rush's body instead of just Telford. I am suspicious of Telford being a traitor. That would seem a bit too convenient given his relationship with the Destiny crew. Also, with his about face, attitude change, and James Bond villain-like speech, I think he's being brainwashed.
The original introduction to these stones in S8's"Citizen Joe", had average barber Joe receiving memories of O'Neill's adventures, after obtaining one of the stones at a garage sale in a flashback episode. The total mind swapping was added later to get Daniel and Vala to the Ori galaxy.
There are, though, a LOT of people in the real world like that, and not a few of them go into government and other "oversight" organizations SPECIFICALLY because that's how they feel.
As much as I hate Wray personally, that's the character of the... well, the character... to a "T."
And if it were me, I'd've put a bullet into her at the end of the mutiny.
Of course, the swappy stones will give memories in dreams, or transfer consciousness across the galaxy... and of course translate for Dr. Rush's accent for him, because that's just how they roll.
Maybe they need a better name... how about the [highlight]P[/highlight]ersonal [highlight]L[/highlight]ucidity & [highlight]O[/highlight]ptics [highlight]T[/highlight]ransfer Device?
Maybe they need a better name... how about the [highlight]P[/highlight]ersonal [highlight]L[/highlight]ucidity & [highlight]O[/highlight]ptics [highlight]T[/highlight]ransfer Device?
Dr. Rush's accent would be the least of the problems. When Daniel and Vala used the stones to "travel" to the Ori galaxy, everybody could understand them there. Of course, that was a general problem with the Stargate franchise... everybody in the universe speaks English, even without universal translators.
Since SGU doesn't have planets with a human population each week this problem was largely averted so far in the new show. And the blue aliens obviously didn't speak English. This leaves the Lucian Alliance. But since these particular Lucians seem to be on Earth very often, we could just assume that they learned to speak English because they needed it.
But Dr. Rush's accent?? That's negligable, considering what errors SG-1 and Atlantis sometimes had. You have the understand that SGU is actually the most realistic/believable of the Stargate shows.
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I'm well aware of the Everyone Speaks English Syndrome. But I was forgiving them that. But given that everyone speaks English I just thought that maybe the Lucian Alliance would perk up as soon as he started sounding like Sir William Wallace!
Dr. Rush's accent would be the least of the problems. When Daniel and Vala used the stones to "travel" to the Ori galaxy, everybody could understand them there. Of course, that was a general problem with the Stargate franchise... everybody in the universe speaks English, even without universal translators.
Since SGU doesn't have planets with a human population each week this problem was largely averted so far in the new show. And the blue aliens obviously didn't speak English. This leaves the Lucian Alliance. But since these particular Lucians seem to be on Earth very often, we could just assume that they learned to speak English because they needed it.
But Dr. Rush's accent?? That's negligable, considering what errors SG-1 and Atlantis sometimes had. You have the understand that SGU is actually the most realistic/believable of the Stargate shows.
The English thing just shows the level of 'who gives a fuck' that this franchise suffers from. Hell, in the original movie didn't Daniel Jackson have to rock some kick-ass translation skills to get them anywhere? I understand that it makes it difficult to tell certain stories with aliens... but it just seems that sci-fi that gives half a fuck at least gives you a universal translator, or translator microbes, or C3P0 human cyborg relations millions of forms of communications, etc.
I'm well aware of the Everyone Speaks English Syndrome. But I was forgiving them that. But given that everyone speaks English I just thought that maybe the Lucian Alliance would perk up as soon as he started sounding like Sir William Wallace!
Dr. Rush's accent would be the least of the problems. When Daniel and Vala used the stones to "travel" to the Ori galaxy, everybody could understand them there. Of course, that was a general problem with the Stargate franchise... everybody in the universe speaks English, even without universal translators.
Since SGU doesn't have planets with a human population each week this problem was largely averted so far in the new show. And the blue aliens obviously didn't speak English. This leaves the Lucian Alliance. But since these particular Lucians seem to be on Earth very often, we could just assume that they learned to speak English because they needed it.
But Dr. Rush's accent?? That's negligable, considering what errors SG-1 and Atlantis sometimes had. You have the understand that SGU is actually the most realistic/believable of the Stargate shows.
The English thing just shows the level of 'who gives a fuck' that this franchise suffers from. Hell, in the original movie didn't Daniel Jackson have to rock some kick-ass translation skills to get them anywhere? I understand that it makes it difficult to tell certain stories with aliens... but it just seems that sci-fi that gives half a fuck at least gives you a universal translator, or translator microbes, or C3P0 human cyborg relations millions of forms of communications, etc.
Why couldn't he just disguise his voice? Look at House, he can do a perfect American accent. So can a lot of other people. I can do a pretty decent English accent myself. Rush is a smart guy, maybe he pulled it off.
Of course the real answer is the writers just don't want to bother with it, of course. But you are picking some nits..of course that is what places like this are for
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