I mean, she's not wrong about Enterprise. 
Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x08 – “The Life of the Stars”
Yeah, the whole thing is really not believable at all.
But then, the point wasn't for it to make sense, it was so the writers could have the characters say "We can't send you back." to the Discovery crew.
Exactly. Time travel actually has a pretty good track record where Trek is concerned: "Tomorrow is Yesterday," "City on the Edge of Forever," "Assignment: Earth," "All Our Yesterdays," the whale movie, "Yesterday's Enterprise," "Tapestry," First Contact, "Past Tense," "Little Green Men," "Future's End," etc.
All some of my favorite Trek movies and episodes.
(And I'll cop to having gone to the time-travel well in at least two novels so far.)
Exactly so.
"Tomorrow, Tomorrow, and Tomorrow" is one of my favorite episodes, and I went into it expecting something dire.
It's a feature that too many fans misunderstand as a bug.
"Star Trek does too much of this."
Star Trek does a lot of many different things, and that doesn't always mean that it does it badly.
Star Trek does a lot of many different things, and that doesn't always mean that it does it badly.
It's a double edge sword for me. It's inclusion is mixed, and some stories are good but you're right on it being baked in.
It's not that it is done badly. My favorite films involve time travel after all. It's just something that I fine can easily sour my feelings on an episode.
It's not bad or done badly; it's just not for me.
My wife and I just watched this for the second time and it has catapulted itself into my top 10 episodes of all time. It has the same kind of complex emotional content I love in Inner Light and we’re both suckers for that kind of story.
I must say I'm a little disappointed that B'Avi didn't come up.
I mean, they all have trauma, and empathy to extend to their injured classmate SAM, but even Tarima's doesn't include her classmate who was the only fatality we saw -they all witnessed the bloody death of someone they knew only feet away, and it hasn't been an issue since.
You'd think that'd be tough to process.
I mean, they all have trauma, and empathy to extend to their injured classmate SAM, but even Tarima's doesn't include her classmate who was the only fatality we saw -they all witnessed the bloody death of someone they knew only feet away, and it hasn't been an issue since.
You'd think that'd be tough to process.
Come to think of it, that is a glaring omission for sure.
Even the best Trek is often very deficient when it comes to following up personal trauma with updates on a character's progress. Episodic or story arc, Star Trek lets a lot of trauma fall by the wayside.
I have no idea what's being argued about, all I know is that I wept like a baby over this episdoe (and then proceeded to cry for an hour over how happy I am that SFA exists.
I had a whole bunch of thoughts about this episode, but @eschaton hit most of them.
I completely loved the EMH-SAM story, completely hated the Tirima story. Piccardo showed some of the best acting in the franchise, and Brooks and Hunter kept up with him. I feel that story hit the same beats as Amok Time and The Offspring.
I completely loved the EMH-SAM story, completely hated the Tirima story. Piccardo showed some of the best acting in the franchise, and Brooks and Hunter kept up with him. I feel that story hit the same beats as Amok Time and The Offspring.
Babies don't weep, they cry, scream and shit their pants. But if that's what you meant right on
They broke the time barrier in the very first pilot.
None of us knows what that means, but it's compelling.
It's just a jump to the left...
Whatever it was, it was so loud when being used José Tyler had to use hand signals on the Bridge to let Pike know they were going at the speed of factor 7.
That's because it was superficial.
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There were ways to do that part well, but basing the entire story around a play only a small fraction of the viewers have ever heard about wasn't it.
Pretty much.
There were ways to do that part well, but basing the entire story around a play only a small fraction of the viewers have ever heard about wasn't it.
It's a shame that there couldn't be two separate polls for people who have and who haven't seen/studied Our Town, as I'm curious about whether that has an impact on the score.
For what it's worth I'd never heard of Our Town and I didn't enjoy the episode.
(Edit: fixed the title as I thought it was called Old Town.)
For what it's worth I'd never heard of Our Town and I didn't enjoy the episode.
(Edit: fixed the title as I thought it was called Old Town.)
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