Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x08 – “The Life of the Stars”

[Mudd]

I thought this one was wonderful. Better than most of Star Trek since 1969. Steiner as Tarima has won me over.

I'm glad that they acknowledged the attraction between Caleb and Genesis.

Any idea why they rushed Jay-Den off the stage for most of the show to bring him back for the denouement?

 

[Farscape One]

I didn’t say otherwise.

I meant the second digit didn’t match the season number of those series.

Ah, okay. Just seemed like you were saying otherwise.

Apologies for the confusion.

 

[Michael]

Any idea why they rushed Jay-Den off the stage for most of the show to bring him back for the denouement?

Yeah, I wondered about that as well. What was the narrative purpose of basically writing him out of the episode early on? I think it was Jessie Gender in her video review who theorized that Jay-Den pretending to be fine and trying to “tough it out” instead of admitting he’s sick was a metaphor for not wanting to face trauma. But I’m not sure that’s intended, tbh.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

I've read someone's theory that he was just pretending to be sick (and pretending to tough it out) in order to escape Tilly's class. Which is the opposite of what SAM was doing.

 

[Mudd]

JG has lost the plot somewhere in the last year or two.

 

[Greg Cox]

Is this what Star Trek has come to? A big guest star comes in and teaches our crew to process their emotions through the lens of the 20th century media at the expense of having an actual science fiction plot?

EDIT: Oops, my bad. I'm rewatching DS9 and just got to "His Way" and meant to post this on a DS9 thread. What are y'all talking about here?

I realize you're being sarcastic to make a point, but just in case some folks really do think that there's no actual SF content to that episode:

SAM's whole issue is that she's a newly-created photonic being who was (originally) not equipped to process the emotional traumas that come with simulating humanity. And the whole seventeen-year time-dilation business is a very high-concept SF solution.

Meanwhile, Tarima's whole deal since Episode One is that she's a dangerously powerful telepath who is not fully in control of her abilities.

Sounds like SF to me . . . .

 

[Greg Cox]

I thought this one was wonderful. Better than most of Star Trek since 1969. Steiner as Tarima has won me over.

I'm glad that they acknowledged the attraction between Caleb and Genesis.

Any idea why they rushed Jay-Den off the stage for most of the show to bring him back for the denouement?

Maybe to give the actor a break since he was the focus of last week's ep?

 

[Michael]

JG has lost the plot somewhere in the last year or two.

Think of her what you will (and like everyone else she’s occasionally spot on and sometimes just dead wrong), but her review of “The Life of the Stars” is actually right on the money.

 

[Elaise]

Mind wipes.

Naruto x Star trek.

 

[fireproof78]

Naruto x Star trek.

Or Men in Black.

Either way, eliminate time travel as best you can.

 

[Farscape One]

I thought this one was wonderful. Better than most of Star Trek since 1969. Steiner as Tarima has won me over.

I'm glad that they acknowledged the attraction between Caleb and Genesis.

Any idea why they rushed Jay-Den off the stage for most of the show to bring him back for the denouement?

He was smart enough to have found a way to get out of that shrink session. Good for him.

 

[Elaise]

Or Men in Black.

Either way, eliminate time travel as best you can.

they would need an agent on every planet, station, asteroid, moon. Naruto make more sense, lol.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Think of her what you will (and like everyone else she’s occasionally spot on and sometimes just dead wrong), but her review of “The Life of the Stars” is actually right on the money.

Agreed. Her dislike of Strange New Worlds season 3 is right on the money as well.

 

[Elaise]

As far as we know from Discovery? They enforce it through the honor system.

And yes, even not knowing about about the source of The Burn there are a huge number of things time travelers could have done to minimize the death and destruction. Like, even just telling people to power down their warp cores a few minutes before that probably would have saved hundreds of billions of lives.

Thee good old honor system, used throughout hundreds of worlds with trillions of people.

 

[fireproof78]

they would need an agent on every planet, station, asteroid, moon. Naruto make more sense, lol.

I was more referencing the neuralizer from MIB so my bad for not being clear. Naruto is not something I have any familiarity with so I'll take your word for it on the sense making.

But, if it means no more time travel I'll welcome the Naruto overlords.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

I realize you're being sarcastic to make a point, but just in case some folks really do think that there's no actual SF content to that episode

Absolutely, the episode has lots of SF content!

I'm not sure I'd go as far as saying there's a plot though...

 

[Mudd]

Time travel is a big part of the Star Trek format from the earliest days.

Eliminating it would diminish the property.

 

[cooleddie74]

Technically since "The Naked Time," only the seventh episode ever produced.

 

[Elaise]

I was more referencing the neuralizer from MIB so my bad for not being clear. Naruto is not something I have any familiarity with so I'll take your word for it on the sense making.

But, if it means no more time travel I'll welcome the Naruto overlords.

I was thinking the hand flashing thing that wiped a person's memories. Later on in naruto there was a being that used it power to control the minds of an entire world or perhaps galaxy. Though that last part was not clarified.

 

[Greg Cox]

JG has lost the plot somewhere in the last year or two.

I don't know. She liked my most recent TOS book . . .