Spoilers Starfleet Academy General Discussion Thread

[Farscape One]

Neither are humans but one step across the Galactic Barrier and you get a God Complex. (Yeah you need high ESPer rating)

The planet Su'Kal was on was composed of dilithium. Dilithium is not going to affect the entire galaxy.

Su'Kal having the radiation 'connecting' him to the dilithium and it somehow sent a blast that blew up all those ships in the entire galaxy?

Around that planet? Sure. That system? Maybe, but that's a stretch. The entire galaxy?. Give me a fucking break. It was a stupid reason from writers whose work on the show was subpar, at best.

 

[Fateor]

The planet Su'Kal was on was composed of dilithium. Dilithium is not going to affect the entire galaxy.

Su'Kal having the radiation 'connecting' him to the dilithium and it somehow sent a blast that blew up all those ships in the entire galaxy?

Around that planet? Sure. That system? Maybe, but that's a stretch. The entire galaxy?. Give me a fucking break. It was a stupid reason from writers whose work on the show was subpar, at best.

You know what's really stupid?

They could have just said Warp Travel got temporarily shut down due to Omega Molecule weapons used in some war damaging subspace to the point it was only now just beginning to recover.

 

[fireproof78]

You know what's really stupid?

They could have just said Warp Travel got temporarily shut down due to Omega Molecule weapons used in some war damaging subspace to the point it was only now just beginning to recover.

Ok.

 

[Firebird]

You know what's really stupid?

They could have just said Warp Travel got temporarily shut down due to Omega Molecule weapons used in some war damaging subspace to the point it was only now just beginning to recover.

You're right - your idea is really stupid.

 

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[Fateor]

You're right - your idea is really stupid.

How about putting your money where your mouth is then and explaining how it's stupid?

 

[Farscape One]

You know what's really stupid?

They could have just said Warp Travel got temporarily shut down due to Omega Molecule weapons used in some war damaging subspace to the point it was only now just beginning to recover.

YES!

In fact, I think a couple people even speculated that Omega molecules were the cause before we got the reason we got. (Hell, it made perfect sense, and I was on board with that idea.)

Considering this era just can never help themselves but to include references and bring back legacy characters/tie current ones with them, I was EXPECTING that. Even "THE OMEGA DIRECTIVE" itself talked about a sector of space where warp travel was impossible due to Omega, so it would have been perfect!

 

[Firebird]

How about putting your money where your mouth is then and explaining how it's stupid?

Your big and better idea was just a pile of fanwank. Boring.

 

[Nerys Myk]

The planet Su'Kal was on was composed of dilithium. Dilithium is not going to affect the entire galaxy.

Su'Kal having the radiation 'connecting' him to the dilithium and it somehow sent a blast that blew up all those ships in the entire galaxy?

Around that planet? Sure. That system? Maybe, but that's a stretch. The entire galaxy?. Give me a fucking break. It was a stupid reason from writers whose work on the show was subpar, at best.

Sub space is everywhere.

 

[Nerys Myk]

No one cares about the "Omega Particle"

 

[Fateor]

Your big and better idea was just a pile of fanwank. Boring.

So using what already exists as a foundational element is "fanwank" in your world?

Well I can certainly tell you have no writing credentials.

 

[Nerys Myk]

So using what already exists as a foundational element is "fanwank" in your world?

Well I can certainly tell you have no writing credentials.

Dilithium and Warp Drive are foundational. The Omega particle is minor minutia.

 

[cooleddie74]

Wouldn't an entire war fought with Omega Particles cause WAY more galactic damage than just putting warp drives out of commission for over a century? I'd think so. Omega is like antimatter bombs on steroids. As a limited conflict confined to one region of space, maybe warp drives wouldn't work for a while. Galaxy-wide doesn't track with what we know from VOY.

 

[Farscape One]

No one cares about the "Omega Particle"

No one cares about Su'Kal, either.

 

[fireproof78]

Dilithium and Warp Drive are foundational. The Omega particle is minor minutia.

Just referencing Omega would not improve it.

No one cares about Su'Kal, either.

I care.

 

[Firebird]

Dilithium and Warp Drive are foundational. The Omega particle is minor minutia.

Barely anyone outside of those who watched that single episode of Voyager would've even remembered it exists.

 

[cooleddie74]

As the last act of the Temporal Wars before the peace treaty was signed and time travel outlawed, maybe some pissed-off faction triggered the collapse of warp drive as revenge and it's taken a century to claw back up to faster-than-light. Omega would probably destroy the entire galaxy or make it uninhabitable at the bare minimum.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It being from VOY

No one cares about Su'Kal, either.

True. I'm usually hard pressed to recall either. But I can recall Warp Drive and Dilithium with ease. They make Star Trek ships go.

 

[fireproof78]

Barely anyone outside of those who watched that single episode of Voyager would've even remembered it exists.

It was classified anyway.

 

[Detached Nacelle]

Omega could work as a plot device to drive a season like the Preserver technology did, but it doesn't have enough weight behind it to be an exciting cause of a change of galactic status quo. To serve the story the cause needed to be original, a mystery to the audience and the characters. Sure the Su'kal thing isn't the fondest look on plot point but attempting something original is always the better option. Like if Discovery had arrived in some perfect future where the galaxy was all united and happy happy then that would be boring.