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Starfleet Academy Official Trailer

So this gets all of the Discovery baggage then?

I originally thought it would exist as its own thing. Now, that doesn't seem likely.

Are we going to get the kids' story? And then the adults' story that continues from Discovery?
 
The show feels from the trailers like a very direct sequel to DIscovery. I think people are likely going to hate it almost as much as the Section 31 movie. Or it will be case of people liking the adult characters but find all the cadets to be annoying.
 
The show feels from the trailers like a very direct sequel to DIscovery. I think people are likely going to hate it almost as much as the Section 31 movie. Or it will be case of people liking the adult characters but find all the cadets to be annoying.
No, the things that went wrong with S31 were very specific to S31. I'm pretty sure I won't like SFA as much as DSC, but I'm absolutely sure I'll like it better than S31.
 
So this gets all of the Discovery baggage then?

I originally thought it would exist as its own thing. Now, that doesn't seem likely.

Are we going to get the kids' story? And then the adults' story that continues from Discovery?
It is in the same time period as Discovery.

As for stories, have to wait and see. Probably both.
 
Yes, and given the popularity of the 24th/25th century trek series vastly outstrip the popularity of Discovery it is highly likely that the network executives will eventually openly retcon Discovery 31st century into being an alternate timeline so their isn't the inevitable shadow of The Burn hanging over their more popular shows.

They will never set Discovery aside as its own alternate timeline. As for the Burn... it took more than 50 years for Star Trek to inch its way from the 23rd century to the 25th. No Star Trek producer or writer will spend a single sleepless night worried about how something that happens in the 31st century will affect their 25th (or 26th or 27th) century series.

The show feels from the trailers like a very direct sequel to DIscovery. I think people are likely going to hate it almost as much as the Section 31 movie. Or it will be case of people liking the adult characters but find all the cadets to be annoying.

Amazing how much someone can glean from a short trailer. You're not just predicting your reaction, you're predicting everyone's. Remarkable. Do you win a lot of money on sports betting and lotteries with your precognitive powers?
 
Amazing how much someone can glean from a short trailer. You're not just predicting your reaction, you're predicting everyone's. Remarkable. Do you win a lot of money on sports betting and lotteries with your precognitive powers?
Everyone knows that Starfleet Academy will be the worst!*




*worst since TNG was declared the worst, then DS9, then VOY and Abrams kind of ruined Trek, and the Discovery did too...damn, Trek has been ruined a lot.
 
They will never set Discovery aside as its own alternate timeline.
As an official stance? I don't rule it out as a possibility, but the reason why would have to do with legality. If Secret Hideout's contract isn't renewed, if things are handled badly, and if Paramount can't use anything from Secret Hideout afterwards, then they might decide to set aside anything made under Secret Hideout, just to make things neater and easier for them. I personally don't think this is the way it's going to go; I believe things will be worked out (renewal or not) but I do think there's a non-zero possibility that things might not be worked out. So, I'm not going to dismiss it outright.

Even without legality, there have been other franchises where there have been cases of new installments selectively ignoring other installments.

After Terminator 2, there were at least three completely different continuations: Terminator 3, the Terminator TV series from the late-'00s, and Terminator: Dark Fate. All of them acted like they were direct sequels to Terminator 2.

Look at the Halloween series. Halloween: H20 ignored every sequel that came out before it and acted as if it was a direct sequel to the original Halloween.

This might eventually start happening with Star Trek.
 
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Schmaltzy & melodramatic. Saccharine. Exactly as expected.
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Feels like it has about as much masculine energy as an episode of Sex and the City.
“Masculine energy”? Now why the fuck should the show have that? :confused: :lol:

Viewers who are plagued by “fragile masculinity” should better stay far away from this show. It has women in it! And women in positions of authority at that. Scary shit. And I suspect it will be super gay as well. That one Klingon sits with his legs crossed and wears a skirt! These types of viewers shouldn’t watch too much of this, or their dicks might just fall off or something. But who am I kidding? I’m sure these kind of viewers will make sure to let us know exactly how much they are not watching the show. :lol:
 
Looks really bad.

Schmaltzy & melodramatic. Saccharine. Exactly as expected.

Feels like it has about as much masculine energy as an episode of Sex and the City.

Yeah. What the heck is going on with the Klingon student? Doesn't seem like the traditional klingon male. Very thin and small stature. I think even i could best him in battle. Lol
 
Everyone knows that Starfleet Academy will be the worst!*




*worst since TNG was declared the worst, then DS9, then VOY and Abrams kind of ruined Trek, and the Discovery did too...damn, Trek has been ruined a lot.
It's been the worst day since yesterday.
What the heck is going on with the Klingon student? Doesn't seem like the traditional klingon male. Very thin and small stature.
"Small stature?" The actor is six foot two, according to IMDB.
 
They are going to try and show a different kind of Klingon than the cliche Klingons we know. Which is a good idea but the problem is the writing will likely not be good so he will just come off as a different kind of cliche and that is young liberal cliche. Bad writing is where even good ideas go to die.
 
As Dax said Klingons are as diverse a race as any other. Here we will be seeing a young Klingon scientist, we know they exist if not highly regarded and let's face it by this point in the timeline the Klingon Empire has probably collapsed or collapsed and then reconstituted and probably regressed to a more isolationist and violent philosophy following the Burn putting a scientist in even lower standing. There's room for a very interesting story here with him not being a Worf clone.
 
Feels like it has about as much masculine energy as an episode of Sex and the City.

"Masculine energy."

There's room for a very interesting story here with him not being a Worf clone.

The most interesting part of Worf's story is that he was never the typical Klingon he wanted to be. He didn't grow up as a Klingon but instead read a lot about what Klingons claimed to be, and modelled himself on that. He was as much a fish out of water when surrounded by Klingons as when surrounded by Federation citizens, frequently finding out that a lot of Klingons only paid lip service to what he took seriously and based his personality on. The point being that if Academy gives us a nonstandard Klingon instead of a bloodwine guzzling blowhard, that'll be more in keeping with characters like Worf and B'Elanna Torres.

As an official stance? I don't rule it out as a possibility, but the reason why would have to do with legality. If Secret Hideout's contract isn't renewed, if things are handled badly, and if Paramount can't use anything from Secret Hideout afterwards, then they might decide to set aside anything made under Secret Hideout, just to make things neater and easier for them.

Good point. Even if that happened -- and I suspect a lot of lawyers would be in place to keep Paramount from losing those rights -- they might just skate around it. But it wouldn't happen for the reasons the haters think, and it might not play out the way the haters want. When CBS TV Trek and Paramount movie Trek were separated for a few years, the companies seemed to want to avoid stepping on each others' toes too much, not to yell that theirs was real Star Trek and the other guys were doing fake Trek.

And maybe some day there'll just be so much Star Trek, so much continuity, that someone will just decide to wipe the board clean and start over. But there are other franchises with as much history as Star Trek that have resisted that temptation.
 
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Looks really bad.

Schmaltzy & melodramatic. Saccharine. Exactly as expected.

Feels like it has about as much masculine energy as an episode of Sex and the City.
Can't get a bad or good feel from what been shown. So far the best I can say is generic. Both as Trek and in a broader entertainment sense.

So... you're saying it's Star Trek since 1966?

"Masculine engery"? What the fuck does that mean? Not enough explosions and dick waving? :lol:
 
So this gets all of the Discovery baggage then?

I originally thought it would exist as its own thing. Now, that doesn't seem likely.

Are we going to get the kids' story? And then the adults' story that continues from Discovery?
Being set in the same Century and using DISCO characters in reoccurring roles didn't clue you in?

Yeah, we'll be getting the kids stories' and the adults' stories. That is why the cast includes both.

None of the adults in the main cast are from DISCO. Reno, Tilly and Vance are reoccurring. The rest of the DISCO cast are no where to be seen,
 
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