Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[Tuskin38]

for the brits

Star Trek: Strange New Worlds is coming to free-to-air TV – with release date now confirmed

It's officially time to delve into the stellar spin-off.

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[Eckauskas]

So...I'm taking this statement as an absolute from someone who states they exaggerate?

The crew compliment would also be a factor. And if ENTERPRISE D is for comfort I'll take the TOS Enterprise.

Maybe you're just playing devils advocate here or whatever, but we've seen crew quarters in TOS and they're nothing like what they have in SNW. Yes, Scotty exaggerates repair estimates, but that means the square root of bugger all when you can use your own eyes to see what quarters they use in SNW compared to bigger and more comfortable ships 100 years later.

It's just a bit ridiculous. Some things in Star Trek can be criticised without needing to become obtuse.

They dwarf the crew quarters in TNG. I don't think Picard had quarters as big as Pike's.

Exactly my point. Pikes kitchen alone looks to be about the size of Datas quarters on the D. And he has a fireplace too. It's just a bit ridiculous.

 

[fireproof78]

in TOS and they're nothing like what they have in SNW.

Asked and answered. Crew compliment doubled since Pike was in command.

It's just a bit ridiculous. Some things in Star Trek can be criticised without needing to become obtuse.

You can criticize. I'm taking exception to Scotty's comment for a number of reasons and the context of the episode is one of them. The episode treats Scotty poorly and it's a poor representation of his abilities.

I don't care as much about the comments around quarter size as much as I find the episode stupid and not a persuasive example, nevermind the fact that SNW is a ship with half the crew so spaces are used differently.

But, even if it doesn't line up, SNW is not something I think needs to perfectly line up with TOS. It aligns better with ENT and TMP.

 

[Yistaan]

Maybe you're just playing devils advocate here or whatever, but we've seen crew quarters in TOS and they're nothing like what they have in SNW. Yes, Scotty exaggerates repair estimates, but that means the square root of bugger all when you can use your own eyes to see what quarters they use in SNW compared to bigger and more comfortable ships 100 years later.

It's just a bit ridiculous. Some things in Star Trek can be criticised without needing to become obtuse.



Exactly my point. Pikes kitchen alone looks to be about the size of Datas quarters on the D. And he has a fireplace too. It's just a bit ridiculous.

He does seem to be playing "devil's advocate" and I facepalmed over the whole "poverty" thing that was quibbled over just so they could defend their stance, so I'm glad I'm not the only one noticing this.

As for the quarters, we're running into a larger problem here where the producers are trying to imply that the interior design, large spacious quarters, etc. in SNW are how the show "always" looked in TOS onwards, even though screen evidence shows this isn't the case and large swaths of fans like us are pointing it out.

Until there's a consensus among producers and fans that the SNW Enterprise looks and is different from TOS and that there's an in-universe refit between the two, then it's pointless discussing because half the fans are going to take the stance of SNW's producers that how TOS looks isn't how it "really" looks, and so on. The quarter size argument is just a byproduct of that.

 

[fireproof78]

Until there's a consensus among producers and fans that the SNW Enterprise looks and is different from TOS and that there's an in-universe refit between the two, then it's pointless discussing because half the fans are going to take the stance of SNW's producers that how TOS looks isn't how it "really" looks, and so on. The quarter size argument is just a byproduct of that.

Or just a different timeline. Then no one and everyone is happy all at once