Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x10 - "Hegemony"

[DaveyNY]

TMP, actually.

I still have a couple of the boxes from that saved in ziplocks.
[NERD since 1966]

 

[Tuskin38]

McDonalds fries in Canada still taste the same to me.

But with different food regulations and such it's possible they've never tasted the same as the US made ones.

 

[johnnybear]

It's not. It's canonically part of the main timeline from TOS on.

You want consistency, go to Mcdonald's for lunch. "Canon" does not mean "fits together well."

Well you can either be a free thinker or someone we ho likes to be fed by spoon. I don't watch any new Trek to be honest anymore but when I did I could see the difference.
JB

 

[Nerys Myk]

Well you can either be a free thinker or someone we ho likes to be fed by spoon. I don't watch any new Trek to be honest anymore but when I did I could see the difference.
JB

I don't believe "free thinker" can be applied to anyone with a ridged view of a fictional continuity.

 

[fireproof78]

Well you can either be a free thinker or someone we ho likes to be fed by spoon. I don't watch any new Trek to be honest anymore but when I did I could see the difference.
JB

But enough about TMP.

 

[DaveyNY]

or someone we ho likes to be fed by spoon

I've done some 'we hoeing' in my life, but it never involved Star Trek or a spoon.

 

[Noname Given]

Generally Ilike SNW and enjoyed watching it but the new Gorn stuff is just a copy from the Alien Movies.

Really? Funny because I didn't see any 'Gorn Facehuggers'. Nor do these new Gorn bleed acid.

In nature there are a number of species who implant their eggs/larva into a living host. The new Gorn don't really share any trait with the Xenomorphs of the ALIEN franchise beyond that aspect - and the Gorn method of implantation is completely different.

 

[fireproof78]

Really? Funny because I didn't see any 'Gorn Facehuggers'. Nor do these new Gorn bleed acid.

In nature there are a number of species who implant their eggs/larva into a living host. The new Gorn don't really share any trait with the Xenomorphs of the ALIEN franchise beyond that aspect - and the Gorn method of implantation is completely different.

And the Gorn are not nearly as ugly

 

[Farscape One]

Oh, me so Gorny...

 

[Dukhat]

Really? Funny because I didn't see any 'Gorn Facehuggers'. Nor do these new Gorn bleed acid.

They don’t need to have those specific traits to still be a ripoff.

 

[DaveyNY]

They don’t need to have those specific traits to still be a ripoff.

Heh .. IN that case, then one would have to surmise that most of Star Trek is a "ripoff" of something or other since its inception.

Personally, I don't see that as a bad thing or even something to complain about.

 

[Dukhat]

Heh .. IN that case, then one would have to surmise that most of Star Trek is a "ripoff" of something or other since its inception.

Personally, I don't see that as a bad thing or even something to complain about.

To me, there’s a difference between being inspired by something, and ripping something off.

 

[DaveyNY]

To me, there’s a difference between being inspired by something, and ripping something off.

Then a lot of Star Trek must really bother you.

With fifty plus years of shows and movies, one would be hard pressed to NOT find something "ripped off" from other forms of entertainment.

BTW: Alien borrowed heavily (ripped off?) from A.E. Van Vogt's 1939 short story, Discord in Scarlet.

 

[Dukhat]

Then a lot of Star Trek must really bother you.

Not really. Other than that I can’t stand the Michael Burnham character.

With fifty plus years of shows and movies, one would be hard pressed to NOT find something "ripped off" from other forms of entertainment.


BTW: Alien borrowed heavily (ripped off?) from A.E. Van Vogt's 1939 short story, Discord in Scarlet.

I had to Google that because I’ve never heard of it. From Wikipedia:

In the third section, the ship comes across Ixtl, a scarlet being floating in deep space. It is a vicious survivor of a race that ruled a previous universe before the Big Bang, the creation of our own universe. Ixtl boards the ship, and being obsessed with its own reproduction, kidnaps several crew members in order to implant parasitic eggs in their stomachs. It is eventually tricked into leaving the ship, after all the crew have left the ship temporarily, leaving no prey left for its offspring to feed on.

Did Ridley Scott and Dan O’Bannon read this obscure short story and decide to rip it off? Maybe. I mean, I can’t prove that they didn’t, other than my opinion that it’s ridiculously unlikely. Other than the parasitic egg thing and the ship, there’s very little about it that makes me think it isn’t just pure coincidence that those two items are common to both works. I don’t quite feel the same way about the SNW Gorn and the Xenomorphs.

 

[DaveyNY]

Not really. Other than that I can’t stand the Michael Burnham character.



I had to Google that because I’ve never heard of it. From Wikipedia:



Did Ridley Scott and Dan O’Bannon read this obscure short story and decide to rip it off? Maybe. I mean, I can’t prove that they didn’t, other than my opinion that it’s ridiculously unlikely. Other than the parasitic egg thing and the ship, there’s very little about it that makes me think it isn’t just pure coincidence that those two items are common to both works. I don’t quite feel the same way about the SNW Gorn and the Xenomorphs.

Apparently, they weren't confident enough to prove it either, because they ended up settling out of court with the author.

Just goes to show that nothing is new under the sun and can be interpreted as a "rip off" or "coincidence" depending on how badly one wants to dislike something.

 

[fireproof78]

Apparently, they weren't confident enough to prove it either, because they ended up settling out of court with the author.

Just goes to show that nothing is new under the sun and can be interpreted as a "rip off" or "coincidence" depending on how badly one wants to dislike something.

"Dennis the Menace" has entered the chat.

Also, "Enemy Below" would like a word with Balance of Terror.

 

[Mudd]

Well you can either be a free thinker or someone we ho likes to be fed by spoon.

Yes, and determined insistence on an unambiguous consistency in canon is very much being fed by a spoon.

 

[Dukhat]

Apparently, they weren't confident enough to prove it either, because they ended up settling out of court with the author.

Just goes to show that nothing is new under the sun and can be interpreted as a "rip off" or "coincidence" depending on how badly one wants to dislike something.

It has nothing to do with whether I like or dislike SNW to point out what I see as an obvious ripoff. YMMV.

 

[DaveyNY]

It has nothing to do with whether I like or dislike SNW to point out what I see as an obvious ripoff. YMMV.

There is no "mileage' when one is just pointing out ONE particular "ripoff" from 50 plus years of them, because of one's displeasure of it resembling something else.

There's not a whole heck of a lot of logic in thinking that way.

 

[Dukhat]

There is no "mileage' when one is just pointing out ONE particular "ripoff" from 50 plus years of them, because of one's displeasure of it resembling something else.

There's not a whole heck of a lot of logic in thinking that way.

You do you. I stand by what I wrote.