I wasn't sure (Paramount Global's shaky finances and all).
Sir Patrick only contracted for three seasons.
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SNW Season 5 In Development
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I wasn't sure (Paramount Global's shaky finances and all).
Sir Patrick only contracted for three seasons.
Lower Decks and Discovery also had 5 seasons. I doubt think it has to do with what you said.
5 is good for a streaming only series. They rarely go past that
Cutting the number of episodes is for me the sign that the beans-counters are not happy.
5 seasons is absolutely good in the streaming world for such an expensive show.
As SNW is also doing quite well critically & with fans, I think the problem is the current business model. Even Disney+ is ending their Star Wars Mando-universe in streaming to go for a movie. There is just no "Game of Thrones" around anymore. It's all niche, but very expensive.
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I'm grateful for what we have received.
The streaming bubble has burst in a big way. Production escalated right before the pandemic, then exploded after filming restarted. By the time the strikes hit, the wheels were already coming off, with every service posting millions in losses.
Six episodes?
I told you these people were brutal!
So 16 more episodes, and they'll have to introduce Boyce/Piper, Sulu, Scott & Mitchell. I don't really care about Dr. Piper, he was just a cipher in WNMHGB, while Boyce was at least a good bartender and John Hoyt played that role well. I didn't even remember the name of the actor who played Piper until I went to Memory Alpha to check just now (Paul Fix).
DSC and LDS were cancelled prematurely.
If a show is super popular, logically its producers shouldn’t have the attitude that they should only make five seasons.
The problem these days, however, is that streaming shows only have ten episodes per year. By the time a new season rolls around, the quality of the show decreases exponentially. Remember The Man in the High Castle and Westworld? By the time their respective 3rd seasons rolled around, it was like they were completely different shows. Their creative steam ran out after only 20 episodes.
Unlikely SNW makes it to 2265 now with season 5 declared the last without some serious time jumps. Seasons 1 and 2 were in 2259 (the Rigel mission in Season 2 still referred to the last Rigel visit as 5 years ago). Assuming Sesaons 3 and 4 are in 2260, Season 5 puts us in 2261. I'll be surprised if we see Leila Kalomi in Season 5 as it is (she canonically meets Spock on Earth that year)
Despite the implication from Q&A that the SNW Enterprise look is supposed to be how it "really" looked in TOS (as there's no time between Q&A and Cage for a refit, although the revelation that Rigel VII messes with people's minds opens up that what we saw in Cage was partially a memory-muddled viewpoint from the crew), I expect all other non-screen material will say that the Enterprise was refitted from its SNW look to its TOS look sometime between SNW and TOS (the IDW comics literally outright had Scotty say that in an issue sometime back)
*26 and they don’t have to do any of what you are listing.
So Trek on P+ is soon just going to be Starfleet Academy, the Risa show and Starfleet Scouts. If the latter two even happen... which is a big if.
Trekkake has come to an end. It was a good run.
Trekkake has come to an end. It was a good run.
Maybe you missed the news but there likely won't be SNW for much longer for them to address the interior design differences onscreen anyway (unlikely the show makes it to 2265).
Voyager's Doctor wasn't exactly who I had in mind if I were to guess which Trek characters were going to be heading up the lone show that carries the franchise.
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I think this could be a half hour show consisting of 6 episodes if it gets approval.
This could be a TV show consisting of 6 episodes of 10 minutes each.
I find it kind of funny, and also kind of sad, that SNW will get less than half(!) as many episodes as ENT did (46 vs. 98).
And yet SNW is the beloved, successful prequel that run it's full expected course, whereas ENT is the failed stepchild that was cancelled prematurely halfway through its run.
And yet SNW is the beloved, successful prequel that run it's full expected course, whereas ENT is the failed stepchild that was cancelled prematurely halfway through its run.
I thought Enterprise was considered better than anything newer Trek? Wouldn't it be more appropriate that it got more?
No, I didn’t miss the news. That has little to do with what I said.
Anyway…
Tawny’s pet project seems highly unlikely to get green-lit. The Starfleet scouts YouTube thing was just a rumor with no official announcement. There is no sign of any Paramount Trek theatrical film in development. The TV movie idea seems to have died with that abysmal Section 31 crap. The only things we know for certain is that they are currently filming SNW season 4 and post-production work is being done for SFA season 1, both of which we won’t see until 2026. And now this announcement about SNW truncated season 5. Anything past that is just wishful thinking until Paramount Global gets sold.
I think it’s far too early to make any form of educated guess as to whether the TV movie idea is dead and dusted. Section 31 is still a very recent thing.
Did its failure decrease the odds of further efforts? Quite possibly. But it might simply be a matter that some other, unrelated, project won’t be announced for a year, two years, whatever.
Did its failure decrease the odds of further efforts? Quite possibly. But it might simply be a matter that some other, unrelated, project won’t be announced for a year, two years, whatever.
It was always a land rush. Each streamer produced as much and as high-quality content as they could in the hopes of getting enough subscribers that they'd be the last one standing after everyone else bankrupted themselves pursuing the same strategy. "Sustainability" was not the name of the game,
I don't see P+ lasting through 2027, if not earlier. That's why I said that any speculation about what they're planning is wishful thinking.
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