Wasn't she on M'Benga's Space Drugs at the time? The same ones which REALLY should be standard issue for Trek and carried on all away missions?
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 5x06 - "Whistlespeak"
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I'd be more likely to believe an overweight person could run fast for a short distance than run an endurance race. Sure they were trying to be empowering I guess but it doesn't ring true. You don't see overweight people winning distance races.
We think of this as being familiar Trek, but what is it similar to?
Some episodes:
There are fewer TOS episodes that follow this pattern than I thought, maybe 8 or 9. Off the top of my head:
The Apple: Weather control, natives worshipping a machine, forest.
Return of the Archons: Natives worshipping a computer
Paradise Syndrome: Natives at the mercy of a broken computer, forest, peaceful tribe
Voyager:
Emanations: religious inhabitants, spiritual questions
Others?
Some episodes:
There are fewer TOS episodes that follow this pattern than I thought, maybe 8 or 9. Off the top of my head:
The Apple: Weather control, natives worshipping a machine, forest.
Return of the Archons: Natives worshipping a computer
Paradise Syndrome: Natives at the mercy of a broken computer, forest, peaceful tribe
Voyager:
Emanations: religious inhabitants, spiritual questions
Others?
Burnham's "I'm not a god" strongly reminded me of "Who Watches the Watchers."
A quick Google of course proves that overweight people run endurance races all the time. That's even before you factor in that Tilly is naturally going to be a lot fitter and healthier than the pre warp villagers down on the planet.
It was an ok episode, probably my least favourite this season. I continue to like Raynor, and while I miss Saru it continues to be great having Tilly back.
Not sure if it was just my streaming but the subtitles translating Culper's conversation with holo-gran were wildly out of sync.
Whosoever wins this particular race is murdered.
Everyone else with the good sense not to be killed, took a dive.
The winners are crazy, ignorant, or morons.
I found it wasn't so much they were out of sync but rather the subtitles went by way too quickly to read properly.
That's a great comparison I hadn't thought of. I was thinking about Homeward and I was worried Ohvahz might commit suicide like Vorin did in that TNG episode.
I was watching on P+ in the uk and it didn’t provide English subtitles at all. I thought we weren’t meant to understand what they were saying, until the exchange ended up lasting a good couple of minutes. I eventually found a way to switch them on manually then had to put them off again.
That is THE best alternate title of "FOR THE WORLD IS HOLLOW AND I HAVE TOUCHED THE SKY" I have ever seen! Almost spit out my drink when I read that.
So, I really enjoyed this episode. I gave it a 9. A few thoughts:
- Very classic Trek vibes in this one, I like it.
- The whole time, I was asking my wife "Why don't they ask what everyone is so nervous about with this race? It seems crazy to just jump in feet first without even asking about it." And I was right.
- When Burnham sent Tilly off, I yelled "Why are you sending the fat girl to run the race?"
- I liked the way Adira was used, for the first time ever.
- I'm glad they didn't feel the need to drum the whole "third gender" thing into the ground. It exists, and you can't always just tell by looking at someone. Great.
- I felt like yelling st Burnham, "When someone asks if you're a god, you say yes!"
- During Tilly and Burnham's conversation before the mission, Tilly gives just enough away to get an idea of what the overarching plot of Starfleet Academy will be. I'm still not intrigued.
- this season overall is a massive improvement over season 4. So far.
- I still hate neutered Stamets.
- I'm dismayed to see so many people calling this episode boring. That's why the producers think every episode now has to have an overblown action sequence.
- Another episode with no Saru. Why is this show obsessed with writing off their most interesting characters Every. Single. Season?
- Very classic Trek vibes in this one, I like it.
- The whole time, I was asking my wife "Why don't they ask what everyone is so nervous about with this race? It seems crazy to just jump in feet first without even asking about it." And I was right.
- When Burnham sent Tilly off, I yelled "Why are you sending the fat girl to run the race?"
- I liked the way Adira was used, for the first time ever.
- I'm glad they didn't feel the need to drum the whole "third gender" thing into the ground. It exists, and you can't always just tell by looking at someone. Great.
- I felt like yelling st Burnham, "When someone asks if you're a god, you say yes!"
- During Tilly and Burnham's conversation before the mission, Tilly gives just enough away to get an idea of what the overarching plot of Starfleet Academy will be. I'm still not intrigued.
- this season overall is a massive improvement over season 4. So far.
- I still hate neutered Stamets.
- I'm dismayed to see so many people calling this episode boring. That's why the producers think every episode now has to have an overblown action sequence.
- Another episode with no Saru. Why is this show obsessed with writing off their most interesting characters Every. Single. Season?
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I am curious where they are going with Culber's arc. So far it feels like the Discovery trope of characters struggling with their feelings, and needing to share what they are feeling inside, and their deep personal issues. We basically got Culber struggling to understand what his experience on Thrill means, struggling to verbalize his feelings with Stamets.
I am hoping it will connect with the Progenitor tech somehow. I saw the theory that Culber will ascend. So maybe the Progenitor tech will transform Culber and he will evolve into some higher being. That could be interesting.
In terms of the A plot. The race that whistles was interesting. There was some nice world-building. But I actually fell asleep half way through it. I saw Tilly was starting a marathon race to the High Summit and then when I woke up, Michael was telling the father who she really is and begging to go in and save the girl and Tilly who were dying. The resolution was nice.
I am hoping it will connect with the Progenitor tech somehow. I saw the theory that Culber will ascend. So maybe the Progenitor tech will transform Culber and he will evolve into some higher being. That could be interesting.
In terms of the A plot. The race that whistles was interesting. There was some nice world-building. But I actually fell asleep half way through it. I saw Tilly was starting a marathon race to the High Summit and then when I woke up, Michael was telling the father who she really is and begging to go in and save the girl and Tilly who were dying. The resolution was nice.
Fat people run faster than everyone else. Haven't you seen the Hobbit movies?
For Pete's sake, does anyone even watch the episodes? The only time Tilly passed anyone is after they dropped out from thirst. Going slower is actually the best strategy, since you wouldn't dehydrate yourself as quickly.
Although I wouldn't object to seeing the Koala on Disco.
But actually watching the episodes would take away from the Big Trolling Energy and clever body-shaming "jokes."
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