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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x10 - "Hegemony"

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TOS "The Arena": Kirk and Spock seem to have no awareness if who/what the Gorn are.

SNW: The Federation/Starfleet is clearly very aware of who/what they are and are constantly in conflicts with them.

The portrayal, sure, we can chalk up to just a change in production design over the last 60 years but why in The Arena do Spock and Kirk act like they've never seen or heard of a Gorn before?
The presentation is all wrong.
 
Watched the episode, I thought it was going well, until the "To Be Continued..." Really frustrating because with the strike, who knows when S3 will get released, could be 2025 at this rate.
 
And the TOS Remastered Gorn ship they see doesn't match the ones we've witnessed in SNW. This could be a whole Xindi situation where some Gorn look like the TOS/Lorca private laboratory/LD individuals and use the multi-nacelled, thin warships and the SNW Gorn use the more jagged and oblong looking vessels for attack and reconaissance.
From TOS S1 Arena: RE: Alien Ship
http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/19.htm
SULU [OffCamera]: "No, sir. Doesn't correspond with any configuration we're familiar with..."
[Cut to Bridge]
SULU: "We can't get visual contact. She's too far away."
 
TOS "The Arena": Kirk and Spock seem to have no awareness if who/what the Gorn are.

SNW: The Federation/Starfleet is clearly very aware of who/what they are and are constantly in conflicts with them.

The portrayal, sure, we can chalk up to just a change in production design over the last 60 years but why in The Arena do Spock and Kirk act like they've never seen or heard of a Gorn before?
Other than Kirk's "Metrons called a Gorn" comment, there aren't really any reactions one way or another to the Gorn reveal.
 
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The CGI is almost 20 years old at this point but here's what a faster, more dinosaur-like Gorn was like in Berman Trek.

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Wow, mirror T'Pol in TOS uniform was super hot.
 
How much squinting would be involved for 'Gorn' to be the name of the political entity rather than the species' name?
 
Only flaw in an otherwise excellent episode was the fact that Chapel was the only survivor and Spock found her. Enterprise crew effectively gambled on that whole section of ship having no life signs. Were there other survivors?

Otherwise this series has clearly become the best of Kurtzman trek. Just wish they filmed more EPs a season!
 
Re: Kirk and Gorn

Kirk also had no idea who Surak, the founder of Vulcan society, was, so Kirk's awareness of things not directly in front of him is dubious, it seems.

Also, does Kirk seem to be giving that log entry telepathically? Or is he narrating after the fact as if he was reliving it?
 
They should just give us a lame explanation about human Noonien-Singh DNA being fused to Gorn on that breeding planet La'An escaped from, to produce the mutation Kirk witnessed and didn't recognize.

I mean, fandom swallowed that nonsense whole to ease their discomfort with the Klingons. :p
 
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They should just give us a lame explanation about human Noonien-Singh DNA being fused to Gorn on that breeding planet La'An escaped from, to produce the mutation Kirk witnessed and didn't recognize.

I mean, fandom swallowed that nonsense whole to ease their discomfort with the Kmingons. :p

Sigh, DS9 could have solved the Klingons by just not mentioning it. Have Worf made up to look like a TOS Klingon when he was on K7, no one says anything, when he's on Defiant he looks like a MT Klingon. Don't say anything. Let the audience grasp the Klingons always looked like this just the limits of 1960s TV prevented it.

But, no, they had to say something...
 
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Sigh, DS9 could have solved the Klingons by just not mentioning it. Have Worf made up to look like a TOS Klingon when he was on Kay, on one says anything, when he's on Defiant he looks like a MT Klingon. Don't say anything. Let the audience grasp the Klingons always looked like this just the limits of 1960s TV prevented it.

But, no, they had to say something...
Blame ENT, they felt the need to break the 4th wall and explain.
 
Blame ENT, they felt the need to break the 4th wall and explain.

DS9 pointed out the difference instead of just ignoring it and making it seem as there was no difference at all. That they said there was a difference meant somewhere the difference had to be explained.
 
Sigh, DS9 could have solved the Klingons by just not mentioning it. Have Worf made up to look like a TOS Klingon when he was on Kay, on one says anything, when he's on Defiant he looks like a MT Klingon. Don't say anything. Let the audience grasp the Klingons always looked like this just the limits of 1960s TV prevented it.

But, no, they had to say something...
TOS Worf would have been a lot more fun.
Would have been a nice nod like how SNW went with the Balance of Terror lighting and camera angles.
 
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