Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x10 - "Hegemony"

[Nerys Myk]

I can’t believe I forgot Shaxs!

I was discounting movies and series ending deaths/disappearances, since by the nature of those higher stakes are allowed, versus characters in the opening credits on a weekly show.

With regard to Culber… I can’t remember. I think he was probably supposed to stay dead, but there was a lot of “bury your gays” backlash that may have caused the production to reverse that decision.

I think they've said he was always going to be brought back. But, grain of salt.

 

[IMC Headquarters]

Scotty (Nomad fixed him).

SCOTTY: I know what you did to me, you wee floating biscuit tin! Pull my finger! Go on!

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

Great spot by Jörg. The Binocular UI is inspired by ST5
https://twitter.com/gaghyogi49/status/1690453102728450048
"We've seen many binoculars and the respective view through them over the course of 55+ years of #StarTrek, each time looking different, so I'm pretty sure that the view seen in #StarTrekSNW's "Hegemony" is based on the binoculars from "Star Trek V: The Final Frontier". :-)"

Now thats a proper feckin Easter egg.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

I think they've said he was always going to be brought back. But, grain of salt.

They almost immediately announced he would be back to counter any "kill your gays" backlash if I remember correctly.

On the list in question they found a way to bring Crosby back as a Yar, found a million ways to bring Spiner back as various Data related people and Ariam from Disco was an IRL reason so found a way to bring that actor back.
Also it seems killing Dax was an IRL decision too.

 

[Commander K]

I worked with Martin Quinn (Scotty) many years ago in a theatre production in Scotland as an actor, in fact he has worked and been directed by a few friends of mine in recent years in theatre. Although his film/tv work is pretty raw he seems to have warmed to the role already. He certainly looks like a young James Doohan thats for sure.

Am I envious of him as an actor...YES lol but good on him, about time a Scottish guy played Scott!

 

[El Maestro]

Not all of them

But enough do…members of this BBS are not the median, casual fan

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

But enough do…members of this BBS are not the median, casual fan

And how do we really accurately know what the median wants.

 

[El Maestro]

And how do we really accurately know what the median wants.

While I can’t prove this, my hunch is that the studios do a lot more market research than we do, plus, in the steaming era they have access to pretty sophisticated granular viewing data

 

[Mudd]

 

[fireproof78]

And how do we really accurately know what the median wants.

And, why should that change an opinion?

 

[El Maestro]

And, why should that change an opinion?

It shouldn’t, but it makes good business to sense to invest in a product with as broad appeal as possible. So aesthetes like us are usually not the people they’re making these shows for, for better or for worse.

 

[fireproof78]

It shouldn’t, but it makes good business to sense to invest in a product with as broad appeal as possible. So aesthetes like us are usually not the people they’re making these shows for, for better or for worse.

No one should make a show catered to my tastes.

Season 1 with Pike was close but that has sailed.

 

[Mudd]

No one should make a show catered to my tastes.

Assuredly not.

 

[cooleddie74]

Most Trek at least somewhat entertains me. That's a better track record than a sizeable chunk of popular entertainment these days.

 

[Vince A]

Like probably a lot of people, I’m rewatching “Arena” again, and at first it looks like a clear continuity break (though I wouldn’t care much; it’s TV, they’re allowed). But! Two saving factors quickly become apparent:

1. When Kirk initially chases the alien ship, he has no idea at first that it’s the Gorn. It heads for an unfamiliar area (so we can retroactively assume that the Gorn have quietly expanded to new areas), and is only identified as Gorn when the Metrons refer to it as such.

2. In the planet, Kirk’s faced with the Gorn captain, which he describes in the log voiceover as “a creature the Metrons called a Gorn”. That would traditionally be taken as his never having heard of the Gorn before — but in context, he says it just after first seeing the classic humanoid rubber-skin Gorn for the first time. Which looks completely different from the Gorn Starfleet has encountered before! Hence, “a creature the Metrons call a Gorn”. It’s not that Gorn are unfamiliar, it’s that the Gorn have apparently changed, and that’s why we didn’t realize it was them at first.

So if SNW happens to follow up with a story in which the Gorn mutate or encompass more than one species or something, all will fit — probably even if they don’t.

That's some legit solid reasoning, and I'm sure the writers of SNW appreciate you doing the work for them, but they could have just come up with a new alien species for that matter.

 

[Mudd]

That's some legit solid reasoning, and I'm sure the writers of SNW appreciate you doing the work for them, but they could have just come up with a new alien species for that matter.

Nah. The Gorn are better.

And it's not "the job of the writers" to cross every t and dot every i as they go along. If it were, TOS would have been long forgotten.

 

[Vince A]

Nah. The Gorn are better.

And it's not "the job of the writers" to cross every t and dot every i as they go along. If it were, TOS would have been long forgotten.

Continuity is exactly the job of the writers, it's not the only job, but it's a big part of it.

TOS is being forgotten. This shows portrayal of the Gorn is clear evidence of it.

Don't get me wrong I like SNW a lot, it's the best Trek we've gotten in years, IMO. But I really don't get this Gorn business. This is just Gorn in name only. Just create a new alien species.

 

[Tuskin38]

They almost immediately announced he would be back to counter any "kill your gays" backlash if I remember correctly.

They also discussed it with GLAAD and the actor beforehand

 

[Tuskin38]

TOS is being forgotten

I don't know how you can say that considering how many call backs (forwards?) there are to it in this series.

For crying out loud they promoted Pike to Fleet Captain for his first meeting with James Kirk so it wouldn't contradict that line from 'The Menagerie'

They recreated 'Balance of Terror' for the Season 1 finale. The Rigel VII mission from "The Cage" was followed up on.

 

[Supervisor 194]

TOS is certainly not being forgotten. Rather it is being elevated and made more relevant than it has been in years, and I for one am delighted.