Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x10 - "Hegemony"

[Vger23]

The Gorn growling at Batel and ultimately leaving her alone was this:

 

[Brightside-16]

SNW meets Jurassic Park? Those were the vibes I got from this episode.

I hate the whole "to be continued." Would rather have a two part finale, like season 2 Disco. It's not bad story telling, but its hard to wait when you don't have a clear date for the return.

 

[Tallguy]

The Gorn growling at Batel and ultimately leaving her alone was this:

Absolutely. I knew instantly that she was infected. Because of this.

 

[flandry84]

Because utopia is soul-crushingly boring for people with any sense of strength or adventure.

Mmhmm.Nothing quite tests the spirit of strength and adventure like being eviscerated by a Gorn,melted by a Horta or driven gaga by alien spores...

 

[Mudd]

Making it hard to wait is a feature, not a bug.

 

[cooleddie74]

I like the wait. Makes it worth it in the long run. Gives you something to shoot for when the show finally comes back.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Mmhmm.Nothing quite tests the spirit of strength and adventure like being eviscerated by a Gorn,melted by a Horta or driven gaga by alien spores...

(Head Canon.)

However many billions can comfortably live on a planet, man kind reached that number a long time ago on Earth, so there is a system to decide how to make a billion people understand that they never didn't want to be Colonists, every year, to make room for the billion new babies who were just born.

 

[Mudd]

But yes, the whole “evil biology” thing...

It's not evil biology. It's just biology. Predators, parasites...they have the "right" to be what they are. Whether or not creatures like Fedroids or whatever we want to call the phenotypically variegated clones of humanity that typically populate Star Trek can coexist with them is the question.

 

[Jag2112]

Complete screencaps gallery now online:

https://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/sc-SNW2-10.php

 

[Gepard]

There were people saying during the early seasons of TNG that they were tired of the Klingon episodes and hoped Star Trek would forget about them.

I stayed bored of the Klingon episodes all the way through the end of DS9.

 

[Dar70]

Gave it a 7. It was ok. Better than the last two episodes. Production value was a 10 though. Very well put together as always. The visuals on this show are as good as Trek gets. But the story was just ok for me. I don't know maybe I am spoiled on all the great 2 partners we got in DS9. Maybe I'm a bit burned out on Trek altogether. I don't know.

 

[voyager1]

Whelp. I wanted to really like this one. I really didn’t like the ending, it was felt like they were trying to make Pike as different as Riker from Best of Both Worlds, all the whole being a Best of Both Worlds type of cliffhanger. The finale last season was awesome, this was just okay. I feel the trial episode was definitely the best of the season followed by the the time travel one. 8/10

 

[Tallguy]

I feel the trial episode was definitely the best of the season followed by the the time travel one. 8/10

Oooh! I hadn't even thought of ranking the season. What kind of nerd AM I?

 

[cooleddie74]

The M'Benga PTSD episode may well be the peak of the season for me.

 

[Vger23]

Mmhmm.Nothing quite tests the spirit of strength and adventure like being eviscerated by a Gorn,melted by a Horta or driven gaga by alien spores...

Some would rather die on their feet trying to maximize the potential of their lives than wallow around in some quasi-oppressive "utopia" having machines on the wall spit out whatever you need and spending all your time in big VR rooms.

 

[J. Frank Doobie]

Mount can actually underplay a scene or a line. He's a more nuanced actor than Brooks or Shatner.

Agree with the praise of Mount but ... I have to note, for the record, that I think Avery Brooks is the best performer to ever grace Star Trek. His every delivery is electrifying. Such a compelling combo of character and actor.

 

[Jedi Marso]

It depends. Assuming they are embracing the post-scarcity lifestyle with infinite energy (no need for nuclear/fossil fuel power plants) and 23rd century tech (infinite free food, robotic/semi-automated construction and manufacturing, free instantaneous transport, etc.), I wouldn't design something that has streets and require cars.

Certainly I would have mid-rises rather than single/dual story buildings, so the living area is more dense and people wouldn't need to take a car to drive to the diner or get a hair cut. If you wanted to be creative and create nice public spaces, you could have a canal or lots of trees/green spaces in between your buildings rather than roads.

Admittedly I don't really have the imagination to imagine what a future society would look like if you had no need for industry or giant commercial spaces like 'malls' and instant travel... but Star Trek hasn't really depicted Federation towns as actual places. They're either modern cities dressed up to with no roads and higher density, or people live on vineyards and farms.

But that goes out the window if the whole point is to recreate an American small town/suburb and maintain those "vibes", whatever that means to these people. Maybe they choose to recreate an American HOA gated community system where every single person has their perfect McMansion home and manicured lawn that looks exactly the same. Maybe people are forced to use cars because they don't want shuttlecraft ruining their views or hate the noise that transporters make whenever people beam in and out.


What is the lifestyle though? One where you live far away from the commercial center of a town and need to commute by vehicle to get there? I mean, that's fine, but I have to assume there's something ideological in choosing a 20th century design.

I talked about what I think was going on with the colony design here: https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/sta...ds-2x10-hegemony.314821/page-20#post-14584385

The same notion applies to vehicles. They would be standard, 23rd Century vehicles but made to appear like they are from an earlier era.

 

[Mudd]

Yeah, obviously I disagree. He'd be in the top three or four. I'm not looking to always be electrified; the best actors can deeply move me with subtleties of performance.

If you only count folks who've played the Captain character, there's always been a tendency to seek actors for that role who excel at theatrical delivery. In that regard, Brooks is probably stronger than Shatner or Stewart. But I'd choose Nimoy or Spiner or Mount or Peck or Shimmerman , or - honestly, maybe half a dozen other Trek performers over any of the cast leaders, for range.

 

[Gary Bitchell]

Same reason people today love Renaissance fairs. The romanticism and nostalgia of a "simpler" time.

It's not all that different than every Starfleet Captain loving some old nonsense like Shakespeare or baseball lol.

But what really struck me is the fact that the old buildings in this ep look soooo close to the bizarrely old buildings Kirk and Company always experienced when they landed on a planet. The "we love the Midwest" spirit clearly infects the solar system like it's a Dollar General franchise.

 

[Mudd]

It's not all that different than every Starfleet Captain loving some old nonsense like Shakespeare or baseball lol.

But what really struck me is the fact that the old buildings in this ep look soooo close to the bizarrely old buildings Kirk and Company always experienced when they landed on a planet. The "we love the Midwest" spirit clearly infects the solar system like it's a Dollar General franchise.

Well, it's like going to Jurassic Park. For some reason, none of these midwestern communities survived World War III.