Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x10 - "Hegemony"
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What's funny is that Quinn is older than Kirk and Spock are currently supposed to be in universe.
Scotty is eight years older than Spock and 11 older than Kirk.
Sure, but they had a dude ring a bell to warn about the Gorn invasion instead of a speaker or a weather alert system on their communicators. Literally a guy outside his store ringing a bell. Even if he was just doing it as a gag for the vibes, that's a real commitment to the role. lol
I mean we shouldn't need cars for day-to-day individual use in cities in 2023 because human beings invented trams and streetcars, but that aside, my thing is that they have magic boxes that can transport you vast distances in seconds, let alone flying cars/shuttles, so I'm not sure why you'd want to use ground-based cars that require streets.
Even then, I don't care how pretty you make a gigantic parking lot look, it's still a parking lot. Unless they "beam" their cars away so that they don't take up space on the streets when they're not using them... in which case, I hate these people even more. lol
I see Firehawk's point.
When I was a younger man, I loved my friends, but their interest in Renaissance fairs or celebrating pirates low-key disgusted me. I would think but rarely say, "so you think serfdom was great?" or "you want to celebrate people who pillaged, raped, and murdered"?
When the Vic Fontaine stuff started, I was like, why would you want to emulate early 1960s America? I chalked it up to white people loving white people things. I clapped when Sisko wasn't all gung-ho and all into it.
Besides, I never really cared for Rat Pack-type music. Oddly enough, along with Hanson's "MMM-Bop", "My Way" is now a go-to for me for karaoke.
BTW, Mayberry was in North Carolina. Not Midwest at all.
When I was a younger man, I loved my friends, but their interest in Renaissance fairs or celebrating pirates low-key disgusted me. I would think but rarely say, "so you think serfdom was great?" or "you want to celebrate people who pillaged, raped, and murdered"?
When the Vic Fontaine stuff started, I was like, why would you want to emulate early 1960s America? I chalked it up to white people loving white people things. I clapped when Sisko wasn't all gung-ho and all into it.
Besides, I never really cared for Rat Pack-type music. Oddly enough, along with Hanson's "MMM-Bop", "My Way" is now a go-to for me for karaoke.
BTW, Mayberry was in North Carolina. Not Midwest at all.
My Aunt and Uncle use to live in a smaller town. For weather warnings they would sound a horn that sounded a bit like an air raid siren. Everyone in town knew what it meant. It was clear, quick and got to everyone.
Some things just work or were already agreed upon as the signal.
This is a bell in front of a single store though.
Now okay, maybe they had a siren or something else after the cut or any number of things since they didn't show the actual invasion. But that bell guy was more dedicated than the beacon boys in Lord of the Rings.
Honestly, I feel like we're sort of at an impasse... and I'd rather talk about whether or not humans are as bad as the Gorn for eating meat even though I know that's probably just as divisive. lol
The Gorn Bell!
Don't ask. I questioned Spock's placement of the rockets many pages ago and was ridiculed for thinking I knew more about rockets than Spock
What difference does it make if it was "inside" an open/destroyed bridge? In space rockets and propulsion devices push against themselves, not their environment, so even "inside" the open bridge it would push the saucer in whatever direction it was pointed.
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I guess I don't see the issue.
The horn that sounded was in a fire station in my family's down located pretty much center of town.
Anyway, to me a non-issue. But, what do I know? I live rural, like driving, don't use public transportation (because it's nonexistent where I actually live and takes forever), and build things myself in my off hours. I'm a nut (and qualified to say that too).
I LOVE taking public transportation. I actually enjoy riding it. Whether it be subways, streetcars, buses, light rail, whatever...you name it, I've ridden it. Hell, If I lived in a city with decent mass transit, like New York, Boston, Toronto, Chicago, etc., I'd sell my car in a heartbeat.
I don't hate to drive, but I don't particularly enjoy it either. I only drive because I have to.
I wish ALL transit was mass transit, to be honest. Like this episode of Mega Engineering:
I don't hate to drive, but I don't particularly enjoy it either. I only drive because I have to.
I wish ALL transit was mass transit, to be honest. Like this episode of Mega Engineering:
Part of me enjoys driving, part of me wants a car that drives itself no part of me wants to ride public transportation.
I've visited cities and used buses, subways and hated the cramped and crowded aspect of it. Part of it is "nice" I guess but I don't like standing in a crowded El-Train holding on to a bar stuck between two fat guys showing down on their Chipotle.
I've visited cities and used buses, subways and hated the cramped and crowded aspect of it. Part of it is "nice" I guess but I don't like standing in a crowded El-Train holding on to a bar stuck between two fat guys showing down on their Chipotle.
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I like driving, I just hate parking, so I’ll subway into downtown every time. And I’ll pick a place I know there will be spots a 10 minute walk away rather than spot hunt.
I thought it was a really good episode in general, especially the Spock/Chapel sequence. But I don’t find the Gorn a very interesting enemy just because they default to horror tropes.
That got my attention as well as I note earlier in this thread. I guess desperate times call for desperate measures. But they really didn't discuss potential survivors much. In the real world, discovering that Christine survived would suggest that there may well be other survivors in other pockets. I can let that go as the needs of the plot. But it felt glossed over.
I felt the direction of the episode was uninspiring and unimaginative. They could have made this a much creepier and atmospheric episode. A bit more intense action creeping around. They had some of that on the colony and derelict ship. But it could've been a much more riveting episode.
I still enjoyed it. But it felt like there were missed opportunities.
They created streets, and more importantly, there are no residential buildings in the area. Maybe they beam there, but then, is that ATV for?
I know don't think about it it's just a TV show and they reused a set in Pickering, Ontario that was built for Reacher, but I'm a Star Trek nerd and this is what I do. lol
I actually don't get that sense at all. Of course, we'll have to wait and see what they actually do.
But there were some hints in this episode that they're heading towards some sort of understanding with the Gorn. Pike commented about needing to understand them. And Scotty's experiences with the solar flares and unusual cooperative behavior of the younger Gorn suggest some biological issue that might be resolvable.
In the end, we know from TOS and later series that the Gorn fade away as a threat. Other series (Lower Decks) suggest an alliance. Guessing we'll see how that process starts.
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I'm not sure why there's so much discussion about the colony. There's basically three issues going on here.
- Colonies will logically start small.
- The colonists will likely prefer a more rustic life style. Or they wouldn't be colonists.
- The practical reality of using an existing backlot that looks like an American town. Much cheaper than creating a futuristic exoplanet colony from scratch!
Driving, I would presume.
Possibly for decoration though too. Like an old tractor I see on some people's properties. They like how it looks.
I'm sorry, this is the incorrect answer. We must have a detailed explanation of why things are like this otherwise a canon violation occurs.
The Gorn aren't completely clicking with me either. They're just coming across too much as monsters and not a "just another alien race we don't get along wirh." I mean, if they have FTL ships they have to have a society and structure, right?
Instead they're just monsters.
Instead they're just monsters.
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