What are you talking about? I gave my opinion on a star trek episode. Geez.
Spoilers Strange New Worlds Episode 7 - Those Old Scientists
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What are you talking about? I gave my opinion on a star trek episode. Geez.
Unless Picard is a flag officer in TNG then no, it's not used correctly. Why break the streak?This is of course assuming Trek treats the term 'flagship' as it should be treated. Which is rarely the case.
I'd watch that.
Does anyone remember one of the early books having a scene with the 1701's christening? Something about a projectile launched from lunar orbit doing what we do with a bottle of Champagne? I want to say that it was one of Foster's - he often went off on weird tangents.
As pointed out before, IRL flagships don't always have a flag officer. The ship just needs to be commanding other ships in a fleet.Unless Picard is a flag officer in TNG then no, it's not used correctly. Why break the streak?
Which the only time that would apply to the Ent-D is in 'Redemption Part 2'.
I hope it's gonna be in the gag reelConsidering that Frakes directed the episode, it must have been a very funny moment in the set
That's bowing
I love both Dal and BoimsI do find it strange that some people who said they hated Dal and can't stand him on Prodigy (which is now canceled so I guess they won) are the very same people saying they love Boimler and Mariner.
And overhead, fluttering in the breeze, the flag of the Federation. Charming.
I think we're going to just have to accept that the Federation doesn't use "flagship" the way we do. The word picked up a new meaning over the centuries, and now means something more like "the pride of the fleet;" the best and most prestigious ship they have. Sort of what HMS Hood was for the British Empire during the interwar years.
Yup. In our time the term has already evolved from its original naval usage into a metaphor; presumably by Trek's time the metaphorical version has become so common that it's used in naval situations as well.
A tiny little touch I liked was that the "fake out" mid-point ending of sending Boimler back to the future happens at almost exactly the time that a regular ep of Lower Decks would be wrapping up.
Also, so Beckett had a nose-ring all this time and we never knew about it?
Also, so Beckett had a nose-ring all this time and we never knew about it?
Seeing live action Tendi would have been the cherry on this temporal icing.
STAR TREK LOG SEVEN, Foster's adaptation and expansion of "The Counter-Clock Incident."
Well, man, what kind of Trekkie are if you this stuff doesn't bother you?! At the very least, you need a strong opinion about it.I always assumed the TOS Enterprise was the flagship when I was young so little or none of this has bothered me.
It makes me tingle in a special place?
There.
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In the real navy, a flagship often has a flag bridge and extra communications, mapping equipment, etc. that are required for fleet coordination.
The Enterprise-D was also in charge of a task force in "Descent", when Nechayev told Picard he would commanding a small task force after the Borg attack on Ohniaka III.
Also, if the Cardassians were to attack, the Enterprise-D would have been the command ship in that sector in "Chain Of Command, Part II".
Technically speaking the commanding ship of a taskforce is supposed to be called the "pennant ship" if it doesn't actually have a flag officer aboard it., though hardly anyone does that these days.
If we're bringing other universes into this, the Enterprise was the flagship in the Kelvin Timeline, according to Pike in Trek XI.
Yep and I remember thinking it must have inspired the opening of GENERATIONS.
I love & adore every aspect of this episode because it has LDS & SNW
But I love both shows to begin with, so it works for me.
This episode was entertaining and had many fun moments. If one were going to do this crossover, this was probably the best way to do it. There are just certain things that don't sit right with me.
Maybe I'm an overserious stiff. I just think structure is good, especially for comedies. TOS was often funny. The Trouble With Tribbles was funny precisely because everyone was their usual self, just in a silly situation.
Forget that Lower Decks is a cartoon. It's just silly. As a comedy show, one can overlook the glaring fact that nobody could ever act like Boimler and Mariner and survive. They'd have been killed in one episode. They'd never make it through Starfleet. They're unserious people, insubordinate to the core, and would have (actually have) caused serious destruction and injury. It's ok because LD is a comedy, but if you are to accept that they really are from the SNW future, it becomes too farcical to reconcile. Riker isn't even really Riker, but a goofball version.
So ultimately, I'm conflicted. I think LD should've always been set in a cartoon world similar to the Trek universe, but separate. Have the time portal be a dimensional gateway instead.
On a related note, I kind of wish officers acted like adult professionals in Trek again instead of emotional kids who needed constant levity, but that's a more minor issue.
Maybe I'm an overserious stiff. I just think structure is good, especially for comedies. TOS was often funny. The Trouble With Tribbles was funny precisely because everyone was their usual self, just in a silly situation.
Forget that Lower Decks is a cartoon. It's just silly. As a comedy show, one can overlook the glaring fact that nobody could ever act like Boimler and Mariner and survive. They'd have been killed in one episode. They'd never make it through Starfleet. They're unserious people, insubordinate to the core, and would have (actually have) caused serious destruction and injury. It's ok because LD is a comedy, but if you are to accept that they really are from the SNW future, it becomes too farcical to reconcile. Riker isn't even really Riker, but a goofball version.
So ultimately, I'm conflicted. I think LD should've always been set in a cartoon world similar to the Trek universe, but separate. Have the time portal be a dimensional gateway instead.
On a related note, I kind of wish officers acted like adult professionals in Trek again instead of emotional kids who needed constant levity, but that's a more minor issue.
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