Here's another example, the Walking Dead. After everything Shane did in Seasons 1 and especially 2...were we really supposed to expect that the group would put up with him? No, the show did what logically should happen in that scenario and showed that he couldn't continue. Same deal with if the Maquis and Fleeters couldn't find a way to co-exist.
I'm not into doom-and-gloom series like "The Walking Dead" so I have no idea what you are talking about.
Really, the problem is how limited the premise really is and how thanks to Network interference they couldn't reinvent it into something more workable partway in.
But it was their job to work with that premise and if they couldn't handle this, they should have been fired.
I can agree that the Network interference made things even worse but they should have done something more constructive than flogging the dead Borg horse and bringing back characters they had dumped only to destroy them even more.
That was because the writers didn't like Garrett Wang and hated how he kept messing up anything they wrote for him and never took the job seriously. They couldn't get rid of him but refused to write anything positive for him or promote the character. If he hadn't won that "Most Beautiful People" list he'd have been terminated in Scorpion.
I've heard some stories about Wang but I don't know if they are true so I won't comment about them. But if he was that terrible, then they should have fired him and told the truth about why they did it and they shouldn't hade changed their minds because of a silly inside poll among the staff of a glossy magazine.
And if he wasn't that terrible, then their actions against him were only ridiculous.
In both cases it's all about writers and producers who couldn't do their jobs.
It's the same reason Chakotay was sidelined:
Look at this, Chakotay should be expressing deep anger or shock or betrayal at Seska's true nature and what does Beltran do? He delivers it with all the passion of a Cigar Store Indian cliche. TERRIBLE. So all those stories of how Chakotay was sidelined? It was because Beltran was terrible in the role and never gave a darn. Writers won't waste time on actors who can't deliver or take their jobs seriously.
I don't find Beltran that terrible. There were episodes in season 3 where he was really good.
Chakotay had a great premise and with better writers he could have had more action and became a more important than he was. I mean, he was supposed to be the second most important character in the series after the captain and he's shoved aside to make room for the newcomer and the holographic Doctor! No surprise that Beltran was annoyed.
As for all problems which may have been, they should have simply cleaned up the air and made everything public by simply telling the truth instead of trying to hide all that was or may have been by BS comments about "mutual agreements" and such. If I had been in charge of a show and there had been a lot of problems with certain people, I would have fired them and told the world why they were fired insead of trying to sweep all problems under the carpet.
I certainly believe that there was a vendetta involved. Had it not been so, the writers would have responded to the viewer complaints about Harry's low rank by simply accommodating them.
As it was, by simply clinging to their "someone gotta be duh ensign", they created a character who is held in contempt to this day. And given that both attempts to bring the character back with a successful career behind him have been thwarted, they may still be at it.
A cowardly way of those in charge to handle a situation.
As I wrote before, it would have been more honest if all problems had been brought up instead of sweeping them under the carpet and coming up with dowwnritght lies about "the happy family".
It's always best to tell the truth. It can make you look like an a**hole but at least you will be regarded as an honest a**hole and not a liar.
The funny thing is that Beltran was reportedly trying to get himself released by demanding more and more money.
I can understand that Beltran wanted out but for once i'm happy that those in charge didn't dump him. It would have been terrible if they had killed off Chakotay, my second favorite after Kes.
Maybe the best thing they could have done was drop all three superfluous characters and run the series with seven. TNG did fine with that number.
Which "superfluous characters"? Kim? Chakotay? And..........?
I think that it would have been better if they dumped all the writers and producers. They weren't doing the job they were paid for.
I've had stories of all sorts, about him, about Lien, about Beltran, about Mulgrew and Ryan... Voyager was clearly not always a happy ship. But separating the fact and the fiction may be difficult.
During the years, I've read a lot of those rumors and most of them are downright fantasies. But there are obviously some dead corpses in the closet.
It definitely has something to do with how badly the producers and writers handled the conflicts and problems which may have been. Instead of solving the problems, they swept them under the carpet and also created more problems.
In this I agree.
It just didn't make sense to me, though. Of 150 people on the ship, every single one chooses to risk the nearly impossible journey home on a ship with limited resources and amenities, instead of living out their lives in a relatively safe place? Including 30 people who never wanted anything to do with Starfleet in the first place?
Janeway would need cult leader level charisma to pull that off!
Maybe she had that cult leader level charisma?
Or maybe the cameraderie on the ship had became so strong that no one wanted to leave for staying forever in the Delta Quadrant on a planet in a hazardous environment.
Which is a reason why I find the plot in
Investigations with Tom Paris planning to leave the ship to join a Talaxian convoy so ridiculous. I mean, I realized directly that it was a sceme.
The episode is great but the plot with tom leaving is not believable.
By his own admission, he made some poor choices. Enough that they were at least considering firing him and presumably killing off his character. For reasons that vary by who you ask, they went after Jennifer Lien instead.
But, it's very possible that someone upstairs wasn't happy about this.
One indication of this is that Wang was the only person not given a chance to direct an episode. But i think the biggest tell is that he stayed an ensign the whole series, even in the face of viewer complaints, when every other recurring ensign on every previous Trek was promoted at some point.
Whatever caused the problems, it's still ridiculous if they took out the revenge on the character by refusing it a promotion.
Trauma and loss of innocence often have that effect. And they cause you to rise above yourself, as Harry did. And, it could have strengthened his friendship with Tom. Just as you get emotional at the end of "The 37's", I'm affected by Tom's last words to Harry in "The Chute".
It would have been better if they had given the character something meaningful to do, as he actually does in some of the books.
But I can agree on what you wrote about Tom's last words to harry in The Chute. They affected me too in the same way.
I'm not saying he wasn't funny, and that I actively disliked him... but you have to admit, he was a prick to McGee sometimes.
I can agree on that one! But sometimes it was a bit funny too and McGee took most of it with good humor.
At the risk of sounding like a complete idiot (to be honest, I am an idiot when it comes to computers), I have no idea what you are talking about. I thought this is the actual TrekBBS.
It reminds me about a rock biography I once read where the guitar player in the band told the author about how he composed a certain song while mentioning some musical terms which the author wasn't familiar with.
So the author wrote in the book after the comments by the guitarist:
( I have no idea at all what he's talking about!) 
