Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x10 - "The Last Generation"
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I gave it a 6.
There was some plot silliness, of course. I mean, that Starbase and the Tutan held iut an awfully long time. It borrowed heavily from: Battlestar Galactica (non-networked ship to the rescue). Star Wars/Matrix for the flight in. At least Data did not yell "She's got a fat ass!" while flying her in. And previous episodes. The solution felt like Dr. Who. Presto! The idea of putting ALL the ships in one system is just absolutely assinine.
Anyway, putting all that aside, it didnt really land with me. But it was still an adequate sendoff for TNG. There were some nice moments. Not revealing Seven's catchphrase was cute. It bothered me a little Laris went unmentioned. Seven, Raffi, Jack, & LeForge look ready for more adventues with Q.
Filling but mostly unsatisfying intellectually and only mildly satisfying emotionally. Better than "TATV" or "Turnabout Intruder", certainly. Way short of "All Good Things." I'd even say short of "Endgame" and "What You Leave Behind" as well. I was excited for it, but a bit let down. And I an a HUGE TNG stan.
There was some plot silliness, of course. I mean, that Starbase and the Tutan held iut an awfully long time. It borrowed heavily from: Battlestar Galactica (non-networked ship to the rescue). Star Wars/Matrix for the flight in. At least Data did not yell "She's got a fat ass!" while flying her in. And previous episodes. The solution felt like Dr. Who. Presto! The idea of putting ALL the ships in one system is just absolutely assinine.
Anyway, putting all that aside, it didnt really land with me. But it was still an adequate sendoff for TNG. There were some nice moments. Not revealing Seven's catchphrase was cute. It bothered me a little Laris went unmentioned. Seven, Raffi, Jack, & LeForge look ready for more adventues with Q.
Filling but mostly unsatisfying intellectually and only mildly satisfying emotionally. Better than "TATV" or "Turnabout Intruder", certainly. Way short of "All Good Things." I'd even say short of "Endgame" and "What You Leave Behind" as well. I was excited for it, but a bit let down. And I an a HUGE TNG stan.
That was a nice little episode but where is my Kirk escaping Daystrom Station? 
The D going to the beacon was a bit too Star Wars like but I’m sure that was intentional. It’s a shame the we never got an Enterprise F/D showdown.
I’m not a fan of renaming Titan. Ship doesn’t feel like an Enterprise to me. They’re usually heavy cruisers. I would have called it the Picard. It’s also nearly half the size of the F so it’ll just look odd when comparing them. Personally I would have gone with a Odyssey refit class.
The D going to the beacon was a bit too Star Wars like but I’m sure that was intentional. It’s a shame the we never got an Enterprise F/D showdown.
I’m not a fan of renaming Titan. Ship doesn’t feel like an Enterprise to me. They’re usually heavy cruisers. I would have called it the Picard. It’s also nearly half the size of the F so it’ll just look odd when comparing them. Personally I would have gone with a Odyssey refit class.
It's so funny because loathe S2, but I can at least acknowledged that it tried to do something original. It was all bad, in my opinion at least, but I can't deny that it was novel.
Random thoughts before I go to sleep:
Oh boy did they need to reveal Jack's Borg connection three episodes sooner so they could space this out. That was rushed as all hell.
Genuinely surprised at no Janeway.
The goodbye scene between Worf, Riker, and Picard was very effective.
Worf steals every scene he's in. Best part of the season.
Jack's Borg body armor makes him look like Batman. And I guess the face junk is just topical?
I thought ending on poker again would annoy me, but it was tonally very different from AGT, so it worked for me.
That ending with the Ent-G is just screaming SPINOFF.
Really liked Troi's connection to Riker allowing her to locate the away team. It was clever, and a much better use of the idea than the rapey version in Nemesis.
Oh boy did they need to reveal Jack's Borg connection three episodes sooner so they could space this out. That was rushed as all hell.
Genuinely surprised at no Janeway.
The goodbye scene between Worf, Riker, and Picard was very effective.
Worf steals every scene he's in. Best part of the season.
Jack's Borg body armor makes him look like Batman. And I guess the face junk is just topical?
I thought ending on poker again would annoy me, but it was tonally very different from AGT, so it worked for me.
That ending with the Ent-G is just screaming SPINOFF.
Really liked Troi's connection to Riker allowing her to locate the away team. It was clever, and a much better use of the idea than the rapey version in Nemesis.
I've seen worse and I've seen better. I knew this wouldn't be terrible and I was pretty sure it wasn't going to be another "All Good Things...(TNG)" so I felt pretty comfortable going in expecting to be entertained. I was.
I'm not going to post a five-paragraph manifesto about how it sucks or defecates on the Star Trek legacy dating back to Gene Roddenberry's first idea for a space show.
I'm not going to post a five-paragraph manifesto about how it sucks or defecates on the Star Trek legacy dating back to Gene Roddenberry's first idea for a space show.
That was done beautifully, i loved how they interweaved all the musical scores from the past. They even reused that piece from the end of Generations (Picard to Farragut: 2 to beam up). I am a music guy and that scene made me tear up and remember watching generations in cinema as a 12 year old. So many scenes which took me back and which seemed to come straigt from the heart of the actors and storywriters. That was indeed beautifully done…
As for the plot, well it was a wrap up for the season, they took most of the time to send off the crew, rather than to address the implications season 3 had on Starfleet. So many of the older starfleet officers must have died during the takeover, they destroyed Space Dock, etc.
I also don’t understand why they had to bring back Q in the mid credits scene, especially if there is not going to be a Legacy show, Q is now trapped in franchise limbo…
Let’s see if this finale actually leads to another 25zh century show. It was the strongest season of Star Trek since the end of DS9, but it might just not be enough to change their heading…
As for the plot, well it was a wrap up for the season, they took most of the time to send off the crew, rather than to address the implications season 3 had on Starfleet. So many of the older starfleet officers must have died during the takeover, they destroyed Space Dock, etc.
I also don’t understand why they had to bring back Q in the mid credits scene, especially if there is not going to be a Legacy show, Q is now trapped in franchise limbo…
Let’s see if this finale actually leads to another 25zh century show. It was the strongest season of Star Trek since the end of DS9, but it might just not be enough to change their heading…
I think it's because the majority don't like any of the TNG movies, with perhaps First Contact being the big exception.
I think most people like this season of Picard... which makes me wonder if it's me and not the show. lol
Yeah, many folks now-a-days spend way to much time bitchin' about how things aren't the way they want them to be, instead of just enjoying it for what it is.
That was ... indulgent and unfocused.
Anyone else notice that that they think their audience is so utterly stupid they can't use the word "cannibalize" without rephrasing/elaborating/repeating "consumed," because you might not understand otherwise?
Anyone else remember in TNG--you know, the real show that wasn't dog shit--how Geordi could trivially sniff out an old Klington cloak, yet somehow, the old ass obsolete cloak on the Titan was impenetrable to everyone including the super advanced Borg/changelings?
Holy christ it was bad.
Anyone else remember in TNG--you know, the real show that wasn't dog shit--how Geordi could trivially sniff out an old Klington cloak, yet somehow, the old ass obsolete cloak on the Titan was impenetrable to everyone including the super advanced Borg/changelings?
Holy christ it was bad.
About Anton Checkov: I was thinking just a couple of days ago that a gun in the ninth episode going off in the tenth isn't good writing.
It's a three act play. It's just that Act 1 was eight episodes.
I was so hoping for a beauty shot of the NX-01 Refit but at least she was visible in the final look at the Fleet Museum's outer display rings.
So people can't say this cadet to captain stuff is limited to the Kelvin Timeline now. Seven is recommended to be captain after literally 3 months if not less under Shaw. Jack is an (acting?) ensign after a year with no indication he went to Starfleet Academy. Why don't they just make him an enlisted man like O'Brien? I hope he secretly went to the Vulcan Science Academy--hey it worked for Michael Burnham.
My rapid rise through the Starfleet ranks in Star Trek Online, while seemingly absurd when I first played the game, now actually seems modest compared to the current screen canon.
Still a bit grating that they're acting (although not outright stating) that Data never had emotions before. Realistically he had emotions throughout almost a decade of TNG movie timeframe, including having to deal with them during what would've been an emotionally trying Dominion War. My personal headcanon was that Data deactivated his chip during the Dominion War because he couldn't handle the emotion turmoil of warfare (thus explaining why he had emotions off in Insurrection and Nemesis) but regardless it's not addressed here at all either way.
I noticed Data seemed to have lost his usual exactness in language--for example he called Picard Captain and Riker Commander in the ending scenes, long after he'd have caught up to their current ranks.
I'm not sure if the post credits scene was really necessary, you think it would've tied to Section 31 or something that's been announced. Q's fixation with the Picard family seems pretty odd now, with Jack being the third (after Jean-Luc and Renee) Picard that he's been messing with. If it's not gong to ever be explained, I'm not sure where they're going with this.
My rapid rise through the Starfleet ranks in Star Trek Online, while seemingly absurd when I first played the game, now actually seems modest compared to the current screen canon.
Still a bit grating that they're acting (although not outright stating) that Data never had emotions before. Realistically he had emotions throughout almost a decade of TNG movie timeframe, including having to deal with them during what would've been an emotionally trying Dominion War. My personal headcanon was that Data deactivated his chip during the Dominion War because he couldn't handle the emotion turmoil of warfare (thus explaining why he had emotions off in Insurrection and Nemesis) but regardless it's not addressed here at all either way.
I noticed Data seemed to have lost his usual exactness in language--for example he called Picard Captain and Riker Commander in the ending scenes, long after he'd have caught up to their current ranks.
I'm not sure if the post credits scene was really necessary, you think it would've tied to Section 31 or something that's been announced. Q's fixation with the Picard family seems pretty odd now, with Jack being the third (after Jean-Luc and Renee) Picard that he's been messing with. If it's not gong to ever be explained, I'm not sure where they're going with this.
And had a nice clear shot when the Enterprise was leaving in episode 9
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