Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x04 - "No Win Scenario"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Commander Richard, Mar 8, 2023.

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  1. Mr Awe

    Mr Awe Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Given the setup of Shaw and 7 communicating, effectively working together, and then predicting a Changeling, I would've been disappointed if it hadn't been so quick and easy.

    In fact, I imagine the whole point of the quick dispatch scene was to emphasize how well they can work together. Hopefully, a harbinger of things to come!
     
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  2. jaime

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    I caught that in the statement… it’s gonna be weird if they both want the cast. Maybe Naylor is going to resume the books, they already both did a follow up to BTL. I only read the Last Human for the first time the other week. (It’s a story in itself why I left it so long… but am already OT.)
    We could end up with a reboot and a sequel running concurrently. Weird.
     
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  3. Dukhat

    Dukhat Admiral Admiral

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    This thread title is very spoilerish.
     
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  4. Qonundrum

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    ^^this, the first six years are hard to beat and, IMHO, only series 10 and 11 come close.

    Doug Naylor eventually captured the feel, and even despite some nominal templating there's still plenty of freshness in series 10 through 13 (even if 12 feels the weakest.)
     
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  5. Macintosh

    Macintosh Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I always felt Rob Grant had a better handle on Red Dwarf than Doug Naylor did. Compare their divergent novels – Backwards is a vastly better continuation of the story from Infinity Welcomes Careful Drivers and Better Than Life than The Last Human is. Red Dwarf was a formative part of my childhood and teenage years but when I rewatch it today it's only the Grant/Naylor era. Everything after season six just lacks a spark, though there are small flashes of brilliance.
     
  6. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    I've merged this into the episode discussion thread, as it didn't seem to warrant a thread of its own, and removed the spoilerish title from the original thread as it appears on the forum's front page.
     
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  7. Pubert

    Pubert Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I did like the new briefing room on.the Titan. It does need more light though.
     
  8. jaime

    jaime Vice Admiral Admiral

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    The Last Human was one of the best books I’ve read in a while ironically. Even the bits of episodes used were made new again. I’m still surprised Backwards even turned up at all. Haven’t read it yet though.
     
  9. TOMFAN

    TOMFAN Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    "I could reinstate you, but you remaining in an unofficial capacity could work to our advantage."

    What could Seven do unofficially that she couldn't if she was back as XO? Is it purely that should could kill the Changeling without breaking any Starflett regulations?
     
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  10. Macintosh

    Macintosh Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I took this to mean that she was free to roam around the ship and investigate while officially she was locked up in her quarters. I think any active Starfleet officer would be perfectly within their rights to kill someone or something that was attempting to destroy the ship.
     
  11. fireproof78

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    If the changelings have infiltrated the crew, and Seven is not in an official capacity, her wearabouts and actions may be more difficult to trace.

    And Seven would kill it regardless, and has broken Starfleet regulations before, as has Worf, so I doubt that's the concern.
     
  12. Kraig

    Kraig Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    If Seven was to return as Riker's XO, she would be expected to remain on the bridge until the crisis was over. Riker wants Seven to find and neutralize the changling and not remain on the bridge as XO.
     
  13. Phily B

    Phily B Commodore Commodore

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    I rewatched the episode again, the scene where the Shrike tries to intercept them after they think they've escaped was so fucking good - the music, tension and how Riker had clearly thought about the possibility and was ready. So good.
     
  14. Enterpriserules

    Enterpriserules Commodore Commodore

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  15. Danja

    Danja Commodore Commodore

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    The Shaw who met Jean-Luc in Ten Forward was a changeling (he wasn't using a cane).

    The whole Wolf 359 sob story was a lie.
     
  16. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Huh? He had a cane. Rewatch the scene as he walks in.
     
  17. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    That'd be a Helluva twist, but no, that was the real Shaw in the holodeck.
     
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  18. Danja

    Danja Commodore Commodore

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    The cane should be easy enough for an imposter to replicate if they wanted to do it. :shifty:

    Sure ... Spill your guts to someone you absolutely despise. Who does that?
     
  19. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    He was high on pain meds.
     
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  20. Farscape One

    Farscape One Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Very true. He even said so saying Crusher is 'very liberal with pain meds'.
     
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