Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x05 - "Imposters"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Commander Richard, Mar 15, 2023.

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  1. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    No, they're not affirming anything. They are stating that Shaw has a bias-and that's it. This merely confirms his familiarity with the crew of the Enterprise, and why he has such a great distrust of them.

    The show doesn't need to tell the audience Shaw is wrong; the show is made for Star Trek fans, and no one else. The selected audience knows Shaw is wrong.
    Really? I work in the schools and not many teens I talk know who Lee Harvey Oswald is.

    I'm not being obtuse. I'm noting the passage of time and that not everyone knows every single person from a war or from another power. Worf is operating outside of both Federation and Klingon space so expecting people to know him is odd to me.

    I'm not going to assume that everyone knows Worf, just like I don't assume everyone knows who Alvin York is. It's a risk to assume knowledge.
     
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  2. Deks

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    Point is that shaw accused Picard of breakin the P.D.
    Picard and his crew didn't break it... they were trying to remove the external factor which was in fact breaking it (Dougherty - who also apparently acted on orders from the Federation Council and weren't told the whole story).

    In this case, Dougherty broke the P.D. and interference was necessary to stop this. He also helped the Ba'Ku and some So'Na to reconcile their differences.
    Plus the Ent-E was attacked by the So'Na... crew had the right to defend themselves.
     
  3. Finn

    Finn Bad Batch of TrekBBS Admiral

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    No. Lee Harvey Oswald has been fading from collective memory for a while. As for WW2, I don't think they were even well remembered in the 90s, other than Eisenhower and he isn't even that well remembered. Even Neil Armstrong will be eventually be largely forgotten except for history and space travel buffs, especially if we are able to build outposts and colonies on the Moon and travel there regularly.
     
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  4. David cgc

    David cgc Admiral Premium Member

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    You know, this was the first time where I thought the decision to not use the novelverse backstory actually paid off; Ro and Picard's confrontation, though it by all rights should've happened decades ago, was a dramatic opportunity they wouldn't have had if it was already water under the bridge. The fact that the canon version is limited by the realities of human aging and when business people think it makes sense to pay money to make more Star Trek might limit it, and it thus requires Picard, especially, to have actively avoided personal growth for twenty years because he couldn't do it where people were watching, means that things aren't necessarily happening in the ideal way from a character or dramatic perspective, but they are happening.
     
  5. E-DUB

    E-DUB Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Some of the dialog between Ro and Picard bordered on brilliant. I can certainly understand Picard's anger toward Ro, but not so much hers toward him.. When last we saw her she was asking Riker to apologize to Picard for letting him down.

    I would have been nice though if, after she mentions Picard being charged with treason, he replied with: "Who says irony is dead?"
     
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  6. Finn

    Finn Bad Batch of TrekBBS Admiral

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    Actually, I was a bit surprised Riker seemed to defend her, in the conference room before Ro walked in,
     
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  7. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    They used the wrong earring design for Ro, they used Kira's. But I won't knock them for that.
     
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  8. CorporalClegg

    CorporalClegg Admiral Admiral

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    Not Shown.

    (See what I did there?)
     
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  9. Finn

    Finn Bad Batch of TrekBBS Admiral

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    Maybe it's for Lt. commanders (or Major) up to Captains or Colonels?

    A Bajoran tradition?

    :shrug:
     
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  11. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    The phaser that the Vulcan used was originally designed as a Vulcan weapon in DS9, but never got used as well, instead just used as generic (usually Ferengi) weapon.
    https://twitter.com/gaghyogi49/status/1636466385176895494/photo/1

    Did you even pay attention to the dialogue? Beverly explains it in the episode, holy shit. These are not the same changelings from DS9.
     
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  12. Timofnine

    Timofnine Saintly henchman of Santa Premium Member

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    This weeks episode was the best episode of Picard so far, 10/10.

    My subtitles do not have the voice in Jack’s vision as being that of the Borg Queen though. The voice also sounds a lot more like Beverley this week. Perhaps Doctor Crusher is a Changeling after all?
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    I do not want to spoil the episode for people who have not seen it yet so I will not say why, but I literally teared up. I cannot believe who came back and how it ended. Tragic. This really felt like a proper Star Trek episode.

    Amazing work on many levels, this show is finally hitting its stride. This is also the first episode where I have actually liked Captain Shaw as a character.

    I’ll nit pick another time.
     
  13. Sisko_is_my_captain

    Sisko_is_my_captain Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Maybe it belonged to a dead lover.
     
  14. Timofnine

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    Vedek Bariel?
     
  15. firehawk12

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    I guess it sounds like there is some other story behind the scenes and fair enough. I don't know if anyone ever publicly talked about the Ro character during the DS9 days either.

    I honestly would have rather they had written an excuse to go to Bajor (due to some opaque Odo reference) and find her there, perhaps working for the Bajoran government, rather than bring her back into Starfleet, but they worked with what they had I suppose. lol
     
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    I forgot another show that this season reminds me of when it comes to a compete and great story arc that you can't put down, Severance. I watched Severance earlier this year and each episode just added to the arc that by the time you got to the ending you really wanted to see more. Picard Season 3 will be a season I will look forward to rewatching in full as a binge because I think it will be better if taken in as a whole in a short period of time.
     
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  17. Nerys Myk

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    The obvious thing would have been a Romulan. Glad they didn't go there.
    I'm sure many cultures have the concept of a "blood oath".
    A lot of planets have a Bronx. (and an Austria )
     
  18. fireproof78

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    Even humans...filthy savages...
     
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  19. Finn

    Finn Bad Batch of TrekBBS Admiral

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    And Swedish Meatballs
     
  20. valkyrie013

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    Wow..
    Don't usually like the killing a character, but it was in this character.. Sad to see her go, though I doubt we'd see her any other way.

    I've been so disappointed in Picard first 2 seasons.. But damn.. This is excellent ..
     
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