Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x04 - "No Win Scenario"

[Mr Awe]

Heh, that's my fan art

I also worked on Picard in an official capacity, in case you haven't seen the Titan/Titan-A dock concept: https://twitter.com/DaveBlass/status/1633800104321712131

Nice!

 

[Lt Mo]

Trek has come leaps and bounds forward with character development, especially for women.

I am really thankful that so far, Beverly isn’t just the vessel for producing Picard’s son and then pushed to the side. That is totally something that would have happened in 90s trek.
I’m sure the JLP/Jack relationship will continue to be a focus but I hope she continues have a strong role and gets some good character development.

It was interesting to see that, after 20+ years out of Starfleet and apparently becoming independent badass doctor, she fell right back into sync with Riker and others solving the problems on the bridge.

 

[Mr Awe]

There should at least have been a scene of the characters floating around, gasping for air as if Darth Vader were choking them, etc. But that shot probably would've pushed the budget of the episode up.

Except that they've got rooms already filled with breathable air. It wasn't going to become unbreathable for some time. The drama over switching life support off was a bit much. They'd be out (as happened) or their plan failed before running out of breathable air.

 

[Mr Awe]

a transporter chief made a good choice for replacing someone, they're alone most of the time, they can keep track of who is coming or going

Agreed. And they can also beam aboard other Changelings and delete the necessary transporter records to keep them secret. You'd think the transporter would detect a Changeling. No problem with a Changeling at the controls!

 

[Orac Zen]

The thing with the holodeck running and using a separate energy source. WTF?! Basically, they could run the holodeck even after they shut down the life support.

If the holodeck is on an independent power source so it can be used in an emergency...why not run life support on the same source?

From earlier in the thread:

To be honest, I don't see the holodeck as having its own independent power source as being an issue. Let's not forget that Voyager (and all other late 24th Century starships) were equipped with holographic doctors, specifically for use in an emergency. So it kind of makes sense for the holographic systems to be separate.

This is the best explanation yet of the (otherwise inexplicable and ridiculous) independent holodeck power source thing. It makes far more sense than the "reason" advanced on Voyager back in the day, and it's better than what they came up with during the episode. Each to their own but it works for me.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I suppose at least we haven't fallen off the irreligious wagon yet in the 25th century. And hey that's another thing older than humanity, but admittedly more destructive than alcohol.

Aliens still have the old time religion,

 

[Mr Awe]

I mostly only voted this a 9 instead of a 10 because I'm presuming that better episodes are still coming down the pike, and I want to reserve my 10s for The Visitor level stuff.

I almost did that too. But I watched it again and wow, it just really hit me. It was that good. But I understand your reasoning completely!

Like Riker recalling watching his son's casket being lowered into what felt like infinity. He runs and ends up getting crushed in the nebula with apparently no way out. I mean, no wonder he just gave up! But his turnaround at the end upon not only escaping but witnessing the birth . . . moving.

Great journey with Jack. Who claimed to be a true loner. But then seeing how the crew came together. You could see the wheels turning in his head. And the stuff between Jack and Picard.

Seven and Shaw's growing respect. So much happened and all those payoffs felt totally earned. Great combination between action and characterization. And I'm not one who usually gushes about TV episodes. But, for me, this one landed just right.

 

[Mr Awe]

From earlier in the thread:
This is the best explanation yet of the (otherwise inexplicable and ridiculous) independent holodeck power source thing. It makes far more sense than the "reason" advanced on Voyager back in the day, and it's better than what they came up with during the episode. Each to their own but it works for me.

I can buy the holodeck having a separate power source that can be independent so they can use it for sheltering if all else fails. That's not the problem.

However, they would make it so that it could also be switched to supply power to somewhere else for safety reasons if needed. Cross circuit it over like they can do with everything else. It's the inability to do that when they want to that isn't believable. If that wasn't built in, all they'd need to do is run a line over. But the capability would be built in. I mean, they apparently do that for every other system on the ship, including life support.

I gave the episode a 10, so I didn't dock it for that. But it's a stupidity that takes me right out of the story.

 

[Mr Awe]

TrekTech works at the needs of the plot,

Oh definitely. I didn't even ding the episode for it. Gave it a 10! But it does deserve an eye roll at least!

 

[Mr Awe]

She's a cursed Changeling.

Ah yes, of course!

I guess Matalas has confirmed she is a Changeling and doesn't have a special hand. So, deranged? Or maybe diseased as suggested by the fleshy SFx? Undoubtedly, we'll find out!

 

[Orac Zen]

Crusher picking up on the birth pattern was lovely. I'm so glad the writers remembered she's smarter than the average doctor.

Absolutely agreed. And unless I'm mistaken she was wearing a blue lab coat, too.

 

[Ogrebear]

Fan art is already appearing on Twitter.

Link please?

 

[The Knappos]

All it needed was one line:
“Oh, we’ll freeze to death long before we suffocate” and problem solved with the life support

 

[jackoverfull]

Seems like that shouldn't be an issue if it was built to run on the other power source.

I wouldn’t know, I’m not an expert on 25th century power converters.

 

[Tuskin38]

Link please?

https://twitter.com/_pundus_/status/1634265626779832344?s=46&t=GJ4lIGndtLwuph_LJO2AJw

 

[Ssosmcin]

I'm calling it now. The reason for the FX change is that the changelings we saw so far are infected by Pah Wraiths.

With you there. I think it's strongly indicated.

 

[The Old Mixer]

From earlier in the thread:
This is the best explanation yet of the (otherwise inexplicable and ridiculous) independent holodeck power source thing. It makes far more sense than the "reason" advanced on Voyager back in the day, and it's better than what they came up with during the episode. Each to their own but it works for me.

My point was that if there was such an independent power source and we buy either of the reasons given for running the holodeck on it, then why not life support as well? Life support trumps doctors and psychological comfort.

I wouldn’t know, I’m not an expert on 25th century power converters.

[Read in 1970s Mark Hamill voice.]

 

[jaime]

I’m putting “Bev is a Changeling” back on the table — the changeling on board Titan took over a Transporter Officer.

 

[StewMc]

I’m putting “Bev is a Changeling” back on the table — the changeling on board Titan took over a Transporter Officer.

But as someone said, that would make the whole conversation between Picard and Beverly about Jack… meaningless?

 

[jaime]

But as someone said, that would make the whole conversation between Picard and Beverly about Jack… meaningless?

Not if it was the Changeling twenty years ago that he had a Rhumba with.