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Discovery ending with Season 5

It was the most Trekkish thing ever. Alien altered by dilithium exposure causes dilithium to go inert through a psychic wave that travels through sub space, triggered by emotional loss.

Discovery was about the power of emotion. They had that power manifest itself literally in that case.

I admit that creative decision could be considered an acquired taste.
 
It was the most Trekkish thing ever. Alien altered by dilithium exposure causes dilithium to go inert through a psychic wave that travels through sub space, triggered by emotional loss.
Seriously, when one looks more closely at the "science" from the Berman Era the complainers like to point at as evidence of Star Trek being hard sci-fi, it becomes glaringly obvious that they're just lulled by the siren's song of technobabble. It's still junk, but as long as the explanation sounds science-y enough, it's good. Even if it's just a meaningless string of technical words that almost look like they were run through a thesaurus.
 
That was the season they made Ensign Tilly the First Officer.. lol

Yeah, I was done with Discovery after that. We were in nonsensical territory at that point, and if I couldn't buy into the characters and their motivations, there was no use in watching further. "Power of emotions" aside.
 
That was the season they made Ensign Tilly the First Officer.. lol

Yeah, I was done with Discovery after that. We were in nonsensical territory at that point, and if I couldn't buy into the characters and their motivations, there was no use in watching further. "Power of emotions" aside.
You won't find many harder core fans of DSC on this board than me... but I agree with you. Making Tilly the First Officer was dumb. Luckily, they undo that by the end of the season.

Taking the glass half-full approach, I like to think it shows Saru's judgment isn't always the best even though he has good intentions. That's really why Burnham is ultimately the Captain in S4 and S5, not him. There's no other way to say it than to say it, Saru is too soft to be a Captain.
 
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This is such a relief. I hated Disco since S1. I could never identify with all the tearful characters, who were never able to set a proper example for the Trek universe.

When the producers realized, that the storylines didnt add up with the prime universe, they made the bold move to reset the show in the 31st century. The show eventually became even worse which was mainly Kurzman related. Disco is the epitome of Kurzman Trek and it failed with his ideas. Disco didn’t only antagonize many HC Trek fans, the show was widely considered to be an artistic failure.

There’s a good chance, that the decision to cancel Disco was also the final coffin nail for Kurzmans Trek legacy. They are building up Matalas whose ideas seem to connect better with the fans. I hope they give him a real chance to fix everything Trek related, Kurzman managed to mess up within the last few years…

I don’t have issues with the depiction of modern relationships. Disco however constantly tried to force the Uber-woke narrative onto its audience combined with a very angry „in your face“ attitude. Trek fans will not forget, Trek fans will not forgive…
Sir, this is a Wendy's.
 
We should consider ourselves lucky (well those of us who enjoyed the show, that is) that they were given enough time (and permission) to do some extra shooting to give the show as much of a proper send-off as possible. Ideally this information would have been relayed prior to the season ending, but at least we know the series won't end on a cliffhanger.

And I suspect (or at least hope) that the additional shooting will yield an extra episode worth of content. I mean they wouldn't need to push the show back into next year just for 5 more minutes of footage, would they?
 
I hope rather than just filming a quick tag to end on, that they do a proper epilogue. Ten to twenty minutes.

Although if I'm wishing, it would be to make the finale double-length, but it's hard to imagine them spending that much on a cancelled show.

And don't make the finale a holodeck story. ;)
 
You won't find many harder core fan of DSC on this board than me... but I agree with you. Making Tilly the First Officer was dumb. Luckily, they undo that by the end of the season.

Taking the glass half-full approach, I like to think it shows Saru's judgment isn't always the best even though he has good intentions. That's really why Burnham is ultimately the Captain in S4 and S5, not him. There's no other way to say it than to say it, Saru is too soft to be a Captain.

Making Tilly the first XO didn't break me so much as having the bridge crew reassure her when she was insecure about it "no way girl, this is for you" and a group hug.

The XO is supposed to be a hardass - the person that disciplines the crew so that the Captain can stay a bit above the fray and have universal respect. That was 100% the wrong foot to get off on if you want to be a manager.

I'd say that this was a sign that she wasn't going to work out, but I think it's more that the writers room doesn't understand how ranks work (just looking at it like any old promotion) - not getting that command involves some distance.
 
It was the most Trekkish thing ever. Alien altered by dilithium exposure causes dilithium to go inert through a psychic wave that travels through sub space, triggered by emotional loss.
Yup. I'll take that over secret children.

I'd say that this was a sign that she wasn't going to work out,
Yup, but also that she had other possibilities than just a command officer.
 
Making Tilly the first XO didn't break me so much as having the bridge crew reassure her when she was insecure about it "no way girl, this is for you" and a group hug.

The XO is supposed to be a hardass - the person that disciplines the crew so that the Captain can stay a bit above the fray and have universal respect. That was 100% the wrong foot to get off on if you want to be a manager.

I'd say that this was a sign that she wasn't going to work out, but I think it's more that the writers room doesn't understand how ranks work (just looking at it like any old promotion) - not getting that command involves some distance.
It's like Colonel Tigh said on BSG. The 2000s one. "If they like the XO, he's not doing his job." And everyone loved Tilly.

Oddly, I think Saru was the inverse when he became First Officer. Lorca was the hardass, so Saru (in theory) was the buffer between him and the crew.
 
Hopefully, this doesn't mean they end the show to reduce spending and there will be more cuts in the franchise ...

Or maybe they feel it's better to replace DIS with a new show/spin-off, that is cheaper to begin with and/or has no licensing costs/contracts attached to it (I don't know if there are still costs attached to DIS because of the Netflix contract?). And maybe one that aims at being less controversial among fans, after they have seen that SNW and PIC season 3 get a more enthusiastic reaction.
 
Disco brings up so many mixed feelings with me. The show had so much potential, a lot of which it squandered — but then it pleasantly surprised me in so many ways I never could have expected.

I’m genuinely sad to here it’s coming to an end. It’s been a muddled, messy ride but I’ve still had a lot of fun along the way.

It sucks that Paramounts penny pinching means the higher cost shows like Disco, unless they’re pulling huge numbers, will ultimately get the chop. They used Trek to give their subscriber numbers an initial boost — let’s hope they don’t kill off too many other shows because it’s cheaper to show reruns of The Office or whatever.
 
It was the most Trekkish thing ever. Alien altered by dilithium exposure causes dilithium to go inert through a psychic wave that travels through sub space, triggered by emotional loss.

When I first heard about the burn, I actually assumed that we were dealing with a big omega explosion. Traveling with warp is only possible in a few small regions and so the spore drive would play a significant role, but the authors didn't really care about realistic events. Instead, the authors write something that the viewer couldn't guess and then something like this came out of it. :shifty:
 
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