When Kirk took command in 2265 Spock switched to command division upon Kirk's request or something. Then when things settled down a little Spock switched back to science.
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Or maybe Spock wore gold to impress Jim but Jim thought blue was more flattering on him. So Spock immediately changed... you know to be attractive to his future Space Husband.
"Sam told me some...interesting things about you."
"Hey, Jim, just a little note about my time here on the Enterprise. The guy I'm serving under is just your type. He even gets a little aggressive sometimes. Choked and shoved me up against a wall. That's the kind of kinky stuff you like, Jimmy! Think you two would hit it off."
Uhura also has a brief fling with command division in 2266 for some reason. Kirk must have been pretty wired on reorganizing his senior staff after taking command and didn't return to Pike's tried and true system until Season 1 of TOS.
Yeah, he was a bit of a Jellico in his early days. No protest on this, Mark: that’s an order.
Kirk was more of a hardass after taking command than Pike. Kirk just looked looser and more free spirited compared to Pike in "The Cage."
Leslie wore all three colors. Might have even worn two different colors in the same episode.
Or maybe he's a set of clones.
Blue was actually the command division color for some reason in 2233. Gold for about a century, then blue because I'm guessing someone at Starfleet Command got drunk and signed an order and then back to gold by the time we see Captain Georgiou meet Saru for the first time.
Please remember as well while watching that each of the shows are also products of its own era. While Trek leans progressive/ liberal (US definitions) 1960's form of that is going to be seriously out of date for liberal/ progressive ideas of today. This is true of all versions of Trek. TOS is generally not subtile in the slightest.I will go out of my way to spot such contemporary issues on my TOS rewatch.
I’m starting a TOS rewatch tonight and will be on the look out for such vested agenda and general allegory. Any American political context would be alien to me though. I am going to do some reviews of each episode I watch too, see if they stand the test of time and all that.
While 20 years later with TNG (especially a couple years into TNG) and the much of Berman era Trek is more subtile. That's less to do with the writers then what Star Trek had become to its studio. By the time TNG was created Trek had become a billion dollar franchise, and as such the studio didn't want to alienate a part of the viewing audience, so to protect their business interest the show usually tended to be a little more subtile (Though not always), but but if you look the liberal progressive message is absolutely there. Streaming Trek, which is a completely different business model, since you personally pay to watch the programs (so things like demographics become far less important, and literally not important at all if you are paying for the ad free version), shows can survive with a smaller audience allows the writers the most freedoms of any period of Trek. As you aren't worried about an affiliate pulling the show if it offends the affiliate or its local viewers.
Yes.
Because it's a work of fiction and that means they get to make that stuff up.
This surely can not be canon?
It is canon.
They have every right to use current real-life events and controversial footage as part of a fantasy storyline about a fictional World War III. They have no obligation not to make some people angry.
So what if there are ongoing legal proceedings or complications? They have the same right to freedom of speech anyone else does.
"Bias" is not an inherently bad thing and does not mean it's inaccurate. If you look at history and condemn slave-owners, that is a form of bias. It is also good, because slave-owners deserve condemnation and being unbiased against slave owners is not actually a good thing. "Bias" does not equal dishonesty. Having a point of view does not equal dishonesty.
What the fuck does a "canon" way mean? Again, Star Trek is a work of fiction. "Canon" is whatever the creators of that work of fiction decide it is.
By that logic, if Star Trek had been in production in 1939, then they would rationally have been obliged not to condemn Nazism and fascism. But a reasonable person would say not only that Star Trek would have a right to condemn Nazism and fascism, but that they also had a moral obligation to do so -- even if doing so offended people.
Star Trek is not only right to take a stand against things like the 6 January 2021 coup attempt, it has a moral obligation to do so if it is to remain consistent with the values it has espoused in the past.
Star Trek probably should stay in the 23rd century and beyond?
Star Trek can go wherever and whenever the fuck it well pleases.
Pure nonsense, as plenty of other posters have already illustrated.
Condemning the 6 January 2021 coup attempt is a positive, optimistic, and moral social commentary with progressive values.
It will be hard to miss in The Omega Glory.I will go out of my way to spot such contemporary issues on my TOS rewatch.
I’m starting a TOS rewatch tonight and will be on the look out for such vested agenda and general allegory. Any American political context would be alien to me though. I am going to do some reviews of each episode I watch too, see if they stand the test of time and all that.
Man, I remember when TOS was a lot more subtle about things and didn't inject politics into stories.
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Yeah, that would be page 0514 to you.
After reading the press release synopsis of the finale… I was close!
At this rate Pike's going to become Enterprise's Future Guy before the show is over.
"It's not racism, it's about fighting political correctness!"--said by my alt-right conservative brother after I called him out for booing a black man in Comic-Con 2015 who asked Stan Lee about ways to increase diversity in comic books. And my brother's as Asian as I am, and also a highly educated medical doctor. These guys have a lot of ways to rationalize their hatred, and cover it up with education.
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