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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x08 - "The Elysian Kingdom"

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Based on the actors, TOS M'Benga is about ten years younger than SNW M'Benga, ten years later, so I've wondered if they might establish that he has an older son. TOS M'Benga would be about 17, now, which is a totally reasonable age to have an 11-year-old sister.

Speaking of family, I'm glad they took the time to imply M'Benga's wife was dead, because I was thinking this was not the kind of situation you want to have to tell your co-parent about later.
Babs Olusanmokun has given an interview about this week's episode at Star Trek: Strange New Worlds Actor Babs Olusanmokun Talks Dr. M’Benga – The Hollywood Reporter , and it's clear now that he is approaching M'Benga as the same character on TOS, even mentioning having viewed Booker's TOS episodes to prepare for the role.
 
For me, the episode was very appealing. I don't need every episode to bash the horrors of humanity into my face. It was a wacky fun adventure with fantastic acting, and a bit of M'Benga's sorrow.
I was entertained, I enjoyed it.
The Benny Russel easter egg was nice, I really hope they bring Avery Brooks onto Star Trek Confidential for an interview.
 
This was fun, whimsical, ridiculous, and very moving all in one package. Beautifully done, and courageous for a modern Star Trek episode.

I liked it. I’m sad that M’Benga’s daughter’s storyline ends so soon…but this was pretty well done. Felt so much like a TOS episode (but we say that almost every week).

8/10
 
What a worthless pile of shit. QPid is great because the whole crew knows they're being messed with by Q, this was just fucking Fair Haven but with LARPing instead of Irish stereotypes. This is now easily the worst episode of SNW, beating out the stupid child sacrifice episode and the Freaky Friday episode. I'd almost rather watch 50 minutes of Michael Burnham & friends softly discussing their feelings while crying over on DSC then rewatch this episode.
QPid was the biggest pile of junk TNG ever aired (maybe one or two others), but it blew chunks.
 
I keep reading this is so much like a TOS episode but it really feels more like 90's Trek fantasy jaunts.
 
"I like this... "Science."

Give me that over, well the "other one."

I'm about half-way through. I think it spent too much time in the fantasy story before getting i to what was really happening. I'd also argue it's too soon for us to get an episode with the characters acting out of character (not "The Naked Now" too soon, but...)

I'm enjoying it so far but unless the last 20 minutes of this are stellar I think this one isn't going to be more than an 8 for me.

Really, the last 2-3 episodes have been feeling like "filler" episodes between Seeeps runs. Nothing really blowing away or incredible since the "Gorn Episode."

Still a good series and for me the best of NT and it feels like I'm watching "Trek," or at least one I can enjoy, but the "pace" of things has tempered a bit.
unless it's a clip show episodic shows cannot have "filler" because you know they are episodic and not serialized.
 
QPid was the biggest pile of junk TNG ever aired (maybe one or two others), but it blew chunks.
Agree. I hated that episode. By that point I was getting tired of Q and would roll my eyes whenever he turned up.

I give this episode an 8. Wasn't feeling the fairy tale setting at first but it got better as the story went along and by the end I was almost tearing up.

If we're going to compare this episode to anything, DS9's "Our Man Bashir" is the closest where Bashir is playing a James Bond type spy on the holideck and all of a sudden Sisko, Dax etc.start turning up as characters in the story. However that ending was much different. Both were well done.

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Agreed. Show don't tell. We keep being told she's very sick but every time we see her she looks normal and healthy just laying there in that biobed. The one times she's up and doing stuff she's pretty much acting like a normal kid. We really should have seen her suffering, struggling to even stay sitting up in the bed, it taking every ounce of what was in her to play with that other kid a few episodes back. (The joy/fun of some activity giving her the shirt burst of energy to play.)

But, we just kept being told, "no, she's very sick, there's not much time left." Didn't quite work.
That's actually part of the reason I'm thinking resolving this plot thread now was a mid-season course correction. We don't actually see become sicker yet apparently days become hours or something like that. (The obvious answer is to minimize her time outside the buffer by rematerializing her as quick as possible.)

Not sure about the change in plans, but it really feels like a change made part way through. It also seemed like that they were setting this up as M'Benga's great secret that he'd have to balance against his duties going forward.

I'm fine with the quicker wrap up though.
 
What the heck is going on? What am I watching? I came on here to see the ratings and was really surprised this episode scored so high with so many likes. I was 10 minutes in and I could not bear to watch anymore. I don't know maybe I gave up too soon, but seriously the genre of this episode is not my interest at all and I probably will not bother watching the rest. I don't care if the acting or story was the amazing, this episode is not Star Trek or even Sci-Fi in my opinion.
 
I keep reading this is so much like a TOS episode but it really feels more like 90's Trek fantasy jaunts.
For me, it felt like one of the lower quality season 7 TNG episodes where they tried to be creative and change away from the tired format but failed, like the Masks episode that also transformed the ship.
 
Yeah, probably my least liked episode so far. Don’t get me wrong, the actor playing M’Benga was very good. But I’m happy to have the sick daughter storyline over with. Was never a fan of it.

the rest felt like a standard Holodeck gone awry episode.

and what was the Benny Russel Easter egg, I must have missed it.
 
this episode is not Star Trek or even Sci-Fi in my opinion.
And what is Star Trek?
Yeah, probably my least liked episode so far. Don’t get me wrong, the actor playing M’Benga was very good. But I’m happy to have the sick daughter storyline over with. Was never a fan of it.

the rest felt like a standard Holodeck gone awry episode.

and what was the Benny Russel Easter egg, I must have missed it.
He wrote the book.
 
Very much enjoyed it. The choice at the end was powerful stuff for a weekly TV show. My daughter, at birth and for several years thereafter, had a health condition that often had us wondering about her long-term survival. Thankfully it has largely resolved itself into something that is not cured, but is quite manageable. Not identical to the situation depicted but I felt strong parallels to our life in those early years.
 
What the heck is going on? What am I watching? I came on here to see the ratings and was really surprised this episode scored so high with so many likes. I was 10 minutes in and I could not bear to watch anymore. I don't know maybe I gave up too soon, but seriously the genre of this episode is not my interest at all and I probably will not bother watching the rest. I don't care if the acting or story was the amazing, this episode is not Star Trek or even Sci-Fi in my opinion.

You might try watching the rest of the episode then since it is sci-fi and Star Trek.
 
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