But what you take from it is important. And a part of storytelling.
Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x08 - "The Elysian Kingdom"
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I took it more like the show is COMMITTED to non-serialization.
They're like, "You think we're going to stretch this on an entire season? HELL NO! RESOLUTION!"
It's an easter egg, probably nothing more.
We finally got M'Benga's first name, Joesph
Joseph comes from the unproduced TOS story 'Shol' that M'Benga was originally created for.
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I could nitpick the rushed feeling of the ending and how there was no way to know if this entity would prove to be benevolent, but it still hit hard enough and made me ugly cry enough that I can appreciate what they did here.
It’s a rare Trek episode that can make me laugh out loud AND cry.
It’s a rare Trek episode that can make me laugh out loud AND cry.
Opening disclaimer: I hate holodeck episodes. The only thing I hate worse is when the transporter is used as a plot device. So... Strike Two before the opening scene even aired. I really thought hard about just skipping this episode, but it is a testament to the show's quality so far that I decided to give it the benefit of the doubt. Plus, I admit I've been enjoying the weekly discourse here and didn't want to cut myself out of a week, which would have been the only honest thing to do if I'd skipped it. Plus, it would have meant skipping ten percent of the entire season- a plug for more episodes per season going forward.
As expected, I hated it.
Good points:
La'an's boob dress. For a moment, I was actually jealous of her dog. I mean, really grinch-green jealous.
Uhura's boob dress. Pleasing cleavage is always pleasing.
The kid in the transporter arc is over. Thank God. Did I mention I hate transporter plot devices?
Rebecca Romjin in every scene and costume she is in. Again, the perfect XO reminding M'Benga that while she sympathizes, get back to work, prole. That's just all navy and nuthin' but navy.
Bad points:
The rest of it. Total idiotic dreck.
I forgive them. They are knocking it out of the park with this show so far- I'm 10 to the 10th power more excited to tune in for this each week that I was Picard, after week 3 or so.
So, on that optimistic note.... onward and upward!
As expected, I hated it.
Good points:
La'an's boob dress. For a moment, I was actually jealous of her dog. I mean, really grinch-green jealous.
Uhura's boob dress. Pleasing cleavage is always pleasing.
The kid in the transporter arc is over. Thank God. Did I mention I hate transporter plot devices?
Rebecca Romjin in every scene and costume she is in. Again, the perfect XO reminding M'Benga that while she sympathizes, get back to work, prole. That's just all navy and nuthin' but navy.
Bad points:
The rest of it. Total idiotic dreck.
I forgive them. They are knocking it out of the park with this show so far- I'm 10 to the 10th power more excited to tune in for this each week that I was Picard, after week 3 or so.
So, on that optimistic note.... onward and upward!
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I think it's just improvising. Like every tv show.
But it shows that improvising barely connected character beats through different stories is a much easier feat than improvising a whole, interconnected 13-episodes arc.
What a worthless pile of shit. QPid is great because the whole crew knows they're being messed with by Q, this was just fucking Fair Haven but with LARPing instead of Irish stereotypes. This is now easily the worst episode of SNW, beating out the stupid child sacrifice episode and the Freaky Friday episode. I'd almost rather watch 50 minutes of Michael Burnham & friends softly discussing their feelings while crying over on DSC then rewatch this episode.
1/10, I can't believe we had a shitty holodeck episode on a show that (as of yet) doesn't even have a damn holodeck.
Edit: I just read about the DS9 reference, so I'll take this opportunity to say fuck DS9's Far Beyond the Stars, it was the second worst DS9 episode after Profit and Lace. Also, how the hell can a figment of Sisko's imagination write a book
1/10, I can't believe we had a shitty holodeck episode on a show that (as of yet) doesn't even have a damn holodeck.
Edit: I just read about the DS9 reference, so I'll take this opportunity to say fuck DS9's Far Beyond the Stars, it was the second worst DS9 episode after Profit and Lace. Also, how the hell can a figment of Sisko's imagination write a book
Edit: I just read about the DS9 reference, so I'll take this opportunity to say fuck DS9's Far Beyond the Stars, it was the second worst DS9 episode after Profit and Lace. Also, how the hell can a figment of Sisko's imagination write a book
Because Benny Russell was real and Sisko was living his life.
Also, it's Trek referencing past Trek. I was under the impression this was considered a good thing vs. a bad thing.
I agree until you promote Disco over this. I'd rather watch a whole season of shitty holodeck episodes of SNW than another minute of Disco.
The opinion of a great many of us.
Also, it's Trek referencing past Trek. I was under the impression this was considered a good thing vs. a bad thing.
No no, every time Nu Trek does something, it's wrong.
So it seems. Well, I knew we would get past the honeymoon eventually. SMH.
A minority of you, yes.
Well, we're bound to hear from them eventually.
The ending didn't work for me. it felt like he just gave up oh his daughter and let some cloud look after her. Maybe they should have made his daughter look more ill. Show how bad it really is.
I did think the entity was going to be something we know. Nagilum came to mind, or someone related to him.
I did think the entity was going to be something we know. Nagilum came to mind, or someone related to him.
Plus, giving the role most different from their actual SNW characters to each actor makes sense.
Given the length of the season I think the episode was planned, along with the others, pretty early on, so I doubt by the time it was being written the showrunners had any time to regret anything yet.
Once again I feel you're not using the phrase properly. And also, you have no idea what his pursuits are, based on a single story of his. Finally, given what we've seen of DS9 the version that Sisko saw wasn't the real character but one created by the Pah Wraiths to confuse him.
But did you hate it because it's a "holodeck"-like episode? Because it's not.
I hope not. Otherwise, this reminds me of Ex Astris' owner, who consistently gives a zero rating to any episode that has any sort of Nazi reference in it.
You don't need other people's opinions to justify your own. Even if you're alone in your opinion, it's still just as valid.
