Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x08 - "The Elysian Kingdom"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' started by Commander Richard, Jun 22, 2022.

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  1. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Other than missing the sarcasm. But, close enough.
     
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  2. Mr Awe

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    No, your sarcasm was clear but not relevant to my point.
     
  3. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Well, that sounds about right. Take a joke and turn in to something serious.


    Yeah, we definitely are alike.
     
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  4. Mr Awe

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    Well, let me put it this way. Your sarcasm minimized the points I was making. Now, I'm sure that wasn't your intention or on your mind at all. But, it prompted a reply in the vein of, "no there's more to it than that." That's it.

    Now, if you want credit for saying a funny. :techman:
     
  5. serdogthehound

    serdogthehound Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I enjoyed it. Getting to see the cast ham it was so much fun, when Christina Chong came out it that full on hammy Diseny Princess I don't think I LOL at any thing that much in a long long time
     
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  6. fireproof78

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    Sighs...

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    My sarcasm was in no way to minimize anyone's points. Not even yours. Literally, it was me riffing on a joke by SF Debris that went through my head.

    I don't care if you don't like the episode.
     
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  7. Mr Awe

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    I KNOW! I said as much in the post you replied to! Seriously, no big deal. And I officially gave you credit for one funny!
     
  8. fireproof78

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    Except, apparently taking away from you point...

    ...which I don't wish to do.:sigh:
     
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  9. KamenRiderBlade

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    Why do I have the feeling that Rukiya's illness plot-line is nowhere near resolved.

    Her conciousness is in the nebular with the entity.

    But her body is still in the transporter buffer, so what happens if she comes out of the transporter, is she in a coma?

    The doctor will probably have a long journey to fix his daughter's illness before coming back to the same nebular to recover her conciousness before the end of the series is my guess.
     
  10. Noname Given

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    It's just an Easter egg, in the same way that in the very first episode of Star Trek Discovery, Captain Phillipa Georgiou has books on a shelf in her ready room with the titles of a few well-known TOS episodes clearly visible on the spines of said books.
     
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  11. Nyotarules

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    McCoy left his daughter to follow Kirk around the galaxy for 25 years.
     
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  12. Noname Given

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    No, her body is not still in the transporter buffer. There's an entire scene where M'Benga discovers that she is no longer in the transporter buffer (in fact they state the time that she was beamed out and it coincides with the start of all the craziness) he and Hemmer try to determine where on the ship she was being to, but that information is missing from the system. M'Benga decides to check his quarters because that's one thing his daughter stated earlier in this episode that its a place she wants to see when she is better.
     
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  13. T'Bonz

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    Well, a definite swing and a miss here.
    In spite of M'Benga and Hemmer.

    I was bored for 90% of the show. Too hammy. Too silly. Too stupid.

    Couldn't buy the resolution either. And letting a ten-year-old decide? Evidently the writers don't have children.

    M'Benga's anguish was the only real thing about the spisode.

    Ah well, there is always next week.

    This ep felt too much like a Janeway holodeck episode and I loathed those.
     
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    The episode’s events are metaphorical code for Rukiya dying, imo
    They chose to give a story of coping with death a fairy tale wrapping.
    Both Rukiya and Dr M’Benga come to terms with the fact her regular life is over and has been for a while.
    Does anyone remember the Doctor Who episode with the flying fish Christmas planet?
    It was the same story.
     
  15. Belz...

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    It's a good thing you can fall back on TOS, TNG and DS9 and VOY, which of course never engaged in humorous episodes.

    A space entity forcing the crew to experience a child's dying fantasy sure sounds sci-fi to me.

    I know, right? Star Trek shouldn't be fun!

    Because in the transporter time doesn't move at all for her.

    No it's not.

    Why are so many people opposed to Trek experimenting and having fun with its premise?
     
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  16. Belz...

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    Yeah, a real father would've let his daughter die, instead!
     
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    Albeit, when dealing with a major loss, the mind does have its own coping mechanism- yours, mine, fans', others', all the same... ​
     
  18. AntonyF

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    Well in this context he might. He's a doctor. He's meant to be a man of science. He knows the odds against his daughter are bad, but he has to hold on to hope. He even had a promising lead from a couple of weeks back.

    Now it's someone's come along and said "Hey, I'll take your daughter to heaven kinda. You okay with that?"

    And he went "Sure..." And then put her in the back of the stranger's van and waved goodbye.

    I think upon reflection it would have felt a bit better if the third party wasn't involved. Some technobabble about how a surge in the transport buffer has led her to jump in time and then make a decision what's best for her. It would rehash a couple of DS9s. But I think it's the lack of consent - and being adult enough to understand that consent - that just rubs me a bit up the wrong way.
     
  19. Belz...

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    It's also his own daughter. Survival, especially in a positive way, is better than letting her die.

    Well that would surely have led to accusations here of using tech as magic!
     
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    I enjoyed it too, although I actually hope they keep it kind of rare. If they do it too often, the shine will soon rub off and that sort of thing will become his character. For me, it will have more impact if they keep it as a rare treat.
     
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