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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x03 - "Ghosts of Illyria"

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Mr. Laser Beam said:
I think I just rolled my eyeballs into the next STATE. :rolleyes: :lol:

srsly, I personally have just never felt the need to own a lot of stuff. I don’t need “corporations” or some mythical “state” to tell me that. I’ve always been fairly minimalist.

The way I see it is, given that I have to subscribe to streaming services anyway (otherwise I would not be able to see current Trek), why not make the most of it? Paramount+ has every Trek series in existence, so why NOT rely on it? It’s not going anywhere. I just don’t see any personal need to own a lot of “discs” when I can get the same stuff included with the service I already have.

I have the same attitude towards the various L&O series. I have to subscribe to Peacock to see new episodes of SVU, OC and the mothership, so logically, why own physical versions of what that service can already get for me? (In the interest of full disclosure, I do own the first twelve seasons of the mothership on DVD, because Peacock doesn’t carry them.)
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Do you like money?

Star Trek: Picard - Season One on dvd = $27.99

Star Trek: Picard - Season One on bluray = $23.39

Paramount plus for three months = $30.00

Most people are not going to stop and start Paramount + so that it might take them 4 or 5 years to spend 3 months streaming 5 seasons of PIcard.

Paramount plus for 5 years = $600.00

And then a couple years later you want to rewatch Picard and paramount plus is bankrupt, so you have to buy the Bluray anyway, if that's even the optimal format in 2027.

I personally believe in digital back ups of physical media, which is totally legal, even if storing a 60 gb bluray on a hard drive is a stupid waste of space. Re-encoding the digital media to something smaller is illegal, and if you're going to do that, it's about 20 times faster just to use torrents.

Hey!

Weird thing!

The Bluray is cheaper than that DVD!?

My guess is that DVDs are still cheaper to make, but Blurays are discounted for bulk sales, or some one is taking the price point on the chin to trick rubes into upgrading their dvd players with bluray players.
 
TheMadCloner said:
This is where the difference between a 10 episode order and a conventional 20+ episode season is really felt. This could’ve been a more powerful episode if it was split into two parts.
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I think it was great the way it was. It was a tight and fun story. Everyrhing that needed to be said was said. If it would have been longer we would have gotten soap opera action and I think people are getting tired of that.
 
One of my favorite moments in this episode is when hemmer beamed the chunk of planet mantle into the transporter chamber. Pretty cool effect.
 
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Pubert said:
I think it was great the way it was. It was a tight and fun story. Everyrhing that needed to be said was said. If it would have been longer we would have gotten soap opera action and I think people are getting tired of that.
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I liked the concept but felt like it deserved a more fleshed out treatment. Could’ve turned it from a 7.5/10 to a 9/10 for me.
 
Lord Garth said:
I like how Pike dealt with Number One being Illyrian.
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I love the little hint of "meh I'm captain of the Enterprise we deal with telling Starfleet we broke loads of rules every day"

Overall I really liked this despite thinking it sounded weak in the preview.
  • Great move giving Pike and Spock some alone time ("arming us with knowledge" :guffaw:)
  • Nice to see the A plot go to no.1 with plenty for the crew to do.
  • We also got a lot of great close ups of the ships interior and systems.
  • I like the switch of having no.1 as the augment and not Laan. Dont really understand why Laan's family didn't change their names like all the Hitlers
  • I found M'Benga's daughter disturbing. I know she is alive but there is a touch of Norman Bates off it or something. It's creepy.
  • Loved the planet set. It was good old fashioned "let's use an office block to be future place". It was almost an Easter egg in itself.
 
Pubert said:
I think it was great the way it was. It was a tight and fun story. Everyrhing that needed to be said was said. If it would have been longer we would have gotten soap opera action and I think people are getting tired of that.
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I agree. This felt neatly resolved and even though you felt the danger, it was about how and with what motivation the characters were trying to resolve the problem.
It's what Discovery is trying to do, but they make the problem to fix about monumental galaxy threatening situations, so the other side of that is overly dramatized issues with the crew, which makes everything feel overblown.
Here, the issues was ofcourse threatening but it was contained to just this ship and crew, making the threat smaller on a galactic scale and thus balancing out the equation and making the drama for the characters feel much more real and within the scope of relatability.

Basically..... What Star Trek did during TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT.
I love Discovery and Picard, I really do. But for me, SNW is proof that Star Trek works better as episodic tv. Or, atleast for me personally.
 
I’d give this a 7. The plot was functional, and although the virus sweeping the ship is a tired old trope, the characterisation was solid and I have to say Rebecca Romijn absolutely shines as Number One—she carried the episode beautifully. I also rather liked the twist. Right from the moment the character first appeared in “The Cage” something about her seemed alien and not quite “human”. In that context, the revelations about her heritage made sense. Fascinating twist regarding M’Benga; instantly added a lot of depth and tragedy to the character. Taking a while to get used to his voice, it’s a very unusual timbre.
Ensign Lance…couldn’t help but think that, in the ultimate act of augmentation, someone had fused the DNA of Tom Hiddleston and Timothee Chalamet.
 
ananta said:
Ensign Lance…couldn’t help but think that, in the ultimate act of augmentation, someone had fused the DNA of Tom Hiddleston and Timothee Chalamet.
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He was one of those actors who had me completely distracted when he was on screen cause I couldn't figure out who he looked like. He also had hints of young Anton Yelchin I thought.
 
ananta said:
I’d give this a 7. The plot was functional, and although the virus sweeping the ship is a tired old trope, the characterisation was solid and I have to say Rebecca Romijn absolutely shines as Number One—she carried the episode beautifully. I also rather liked the twist. Right from the moment the character first appeared in “The Cage” something about her seemed alien and not quite “human”. In that context, the revelations about her heritage made sense. Fascinating twist regarding M’Benga; instantly added a lot of depth and tragedy to the character. Taking a while to get used to his voice, it’s a very unusual timbre.
Ensign Lance…couldn’t help but think that, in the ultimate act of augmentation, someone had fused the DNA of Tom Hiddleston and Timothee Chalamet.
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Yeah it's it's old trope but since they are in space it can happen. Plus it was a cool disease of light and heat. I thought that was pretty sweet.
 
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Belz... said:
Which one was that?
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It wasn't a whole episode, it was a holo deck training simulation sequence that lasted less than a minute.

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Belz... said:
Does that mean that it was absolutely flawless, or one of the best episodes of television you've ever seen, or both, or neither?
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It means I enjoyed the hell out of it and thought it was a real good show.

All this parsing of .5s and points off or on because some visual image irritated my obsessive-compulsive issues is ridiculously self-serious and beyond tedious to me, and I don't participate. If I don't love or hate it, I can't be bothered to vote.
 
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