Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x09 - "Rubicon"

[jackoverfull]

Clear progress has occurred in 75 years since the 23rd century... and we have seen even more improvements in the 24th century where development has been accellerating steadily.

mot so much: they are still using m/a reactors, subspace radio, impulse engines an so on. In fact they are still using 23rd century ships and we’ve seen a refitted excelsior go head to head against the defiant, supposedly one of the better armed ships in the fleet.

As you say: we have no frame of reference. And even less so for the 32th century.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

you didn’t.

Also I’ve been wondering: didn’t they agree on stopping using the spore drive unless in cases of dire emergency in season two to avoid further damage to the micelial network? They seem to be using it quite a lot lately.

My understanding is that it was revealed that Culber was the one damaging the network and once they got him out everything was good. Though Stamets did mention this season that he'd told the people working on the new spore drive how to avoid harming the jahSepp with it.

 

[Char Kais]

Is there no security since Naan left?
The shuttle should have had a tactical team in tac gear .. Not 3 people in there standard uniform. .. None of them security..

This is an example of how Discovery got worse over the seasons.

In S01E03 they did send the away team in tactical gear and with at least one security officer over to the USS Glenn.
They used the tactical gear in S1-S3 a lot.

Why was the communications officer and the tactical officer on the team? (Token screen time for the characters out of pity?)
Why was the away team not in 32nd-century tactical gear?

It is as if the mission was destined to fail, so no point in making 32nd-century tactical gear for the characters.

I have my own little theory:

Did you notice something about that away team?

All male.

They all had to be rescued by Michael Burnham and the (almost) all-female bridge team.

The men are falling over each other and on their knees in front of women.

Men prostrating towards Michael Burnham.

When Michael Burnham, said that she wouldn't lead the boarding team, that wasn't a smart command decision, that was part of the setup.

The boarding mission was destined to fail, and Michael Burnham can't fail! (unless it's a Xanatos gambit, like in S04E08)

 

[IMC Headquarters]

The DMA is like an iPhone--just get a bigger one when the juice runs dry.

 

[Bornin1980something]

This is an example of how Discovery got worse over the seasons.

In S01E03 they did send the away team in tactical gear and with at least one security officer over to the USS Glenn.
They used the tactical gear in S1-S3 a lot.

Why was the communications officer and the tactical officer on the team? (Token screen time for the characters out of pity?)
Why was the away team not in 32nd-century tactical gear?

It is as if the mission was destined to fail, so no point in making 32nd-century tactical gear for the characters.

I have my own little theory:

Did you notice something about that away team?

All male.

They all had to be rescued by Michael Burnham and the (almost) all-female bridge team.

The men are falling over each other and on their knees in front of women.

Men prostrating towards Michael Burnham.

When Michael Burnham, said that she wouldn't lead the boarding team, that wasn't a smart command decision, that was part of the setup.

The boarding mission was destined to fail, and Michael Burnham can't fail! (unless it's a Xanatos gambit, like in S04E08)

The cult of Michael Burnham. Everyone worships her, and has done for a long time. Including Nahn, that's why she is compromised, and can't take command or talk MB down at the end.

 

[IMC Headquarters]

This is an example of how Discovery got worse over the seasons.

In S01E03 they did send the away team in tactical gear and with at least one security officer over to the USS Glenn.
They used the tactical gear in S1-S3 a lot.

Why was the communications officer and the tactical officer on the team? (Token screen time for the characters out of pity?)
Why was the away team not in 32nd-century tactical gear?

It is as if the mission was destined to fail, so no point in making 32nd-century tactical gear for the characters.

I have my own little theory:

Did you notice something about that away team?

All male.

They all had to be rescued by Michael Burnham and the (almost) all-female bridge team.

The men are falling over each other and on their knees in front of women.

Men prostrating towards Michael Burnham.

When Michael Burnham, said that she wouldn't lead the boarding team, that wasn't a smart command decision, that was part of the setup.

The boarding mission was destined to fail, and Michael Burnham can't fail! (unless it's a Xanatos gambit, like in S04E08)

A "Spock's Brain" homage!

 

[Mudd]

I have my own little theory:

Your theory is bollocks.

And I have no use for the Burnham character or this series in general.

 

[starfleettanner]

This is an example of how Discovery got worse over the seasons.

In S01E03 they did send the away team in tactical gear and with at least one security officer over to the USS Glenn.
They used the tactical gear in S1-S3 a lot.

Why was the communications officer and the tactical officer on the team? (Token screen time for the characters out of pity?)
Why was the away team not in 32nd-century tactical gear?

It is as if the mission was destined to fail, so no point in making 32nd-century tactical gear for the characters.

I have my own little theory:

Did you notice something about that away team?

All male.

They all had to be rescued by Michael Burnham and the (almost) all-female bridge team.

The men are falling over each other and on their knees in front of women.

Men prostrating towards Michael Burnham.

When Michael Burnham, said that she wouldn't lead the boarding team, that wasn't a smart command decision, that was part of the setup.

The boarding mission was destined to fail, and Michael Burnham can't fail! (unless it's a Xanatos gambit, like in S04E08)

Please tell me this is a sarcastic post!

 

[cooleddie74]

All sensor scans point to serious.

Abandon ship.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

So the theory is that an all-male assault team were sent out on a mission that could have never worked, made no mistakes of their own along the way, and were rescued at the last moment due to Book's help... and this was supposed to show us how perfect Burnham is?

 

[Turtletrekker]

This theory stretches things more than Reed Richards.

 

[cooleddie74]

This series has enough problems without that Rube Goldberg explanation to make Michael Burnham a Super Mary Sue with the powers of Apollo.

 

[Campe]

It amazes me that someone who is so anti-Disco would spend so much time getting screen grabs and developing a hypothesis which in the end is really pretty silly. I won’t deny Disco has its problems. Still… It’s a big franchise. Find a corner of it you do enjoy.

 

[Turtletrekker]

It amazes me that someone who is so anti-Disco would spend so much time getting screen grabs and developing a hypothesis which in the end is really pretty silly.

Sounds like an unhealthy obsession.

 

[Nerys Myk]

It is an original twist on an emergency transport. They weren't suddenly yanked across space, they were bowing to the goddess, Michael. (praise be her name)

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

This series has enough problems without that Rube Goldberg explanation to make Michael Burnham a Super Mary Sue with the powers of Apollo.

Yeah, she won't get her godlike powers until she goes through the galactic barrier!

 

[Campe]

Yeah, she won't get her godlike powers until she goes through the galactic barrier!

I mean if someone doesn’t get Gary Mitchelled when they go through the barrier, I’ll be very disappointed. I sure do hope it ain’t Burnham though.

 

[cooleddie74]

I want her eyes glowing silver or I'm boycotting Paramount+ for the next 200 years.

That ought to be just about right.

 

[Campe]

I want her eyes glowing silver or I'm boycotting Paramount+ for the next 200 years.

That ought to be just about right.

I believe it should be more “That ought to beeee…. just about…. RIGHT.” (With a little teeth clench on “right.”)

 

[Nerys Myk]

I need crew ESper ratings, stat!