*Gasp*
Why I never!
The other usual suspect. I shouldn’t be surprised. His reputation precedes him.
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Do you like the Discovery Klingon look?
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*Gasp*
Why I never!
The other usual suspect. I shouldn’t be surprised. His reputation precedes him.
There's even an alien design from Star Trek Beyond in Season 4.
https://twitter.com/gaghyogi49/status/1464707113469583364
Who actually played a Klingon himself in Season 2!
Lucky bastard even got a whole ship class named after him.
I love his makeupWho actually played a Klingon himself in Season 2!
Lucky bastard even got a whole ship class named after him.
The look is fine. They look cool.
What I hate is the inconsistency. I know, I know...they've basically always been consistent. But their look had mostly settled since the 90s, besides a few minor and negligible tweaks here and there. Plus, we had an in-universe explanation from Enterprise about their appearance in TOS. The Disco Klingons just look ridiculous with regard to all of that, and the changes totally unnecessary bordering on offensive.
What I hate is the inconsistency. I know, I know...they've basically always been consistent. But their look had mostly settled since the 90s, besides a few minor and negligible tweaks here and there. Plus, we had an in-universe explanation from Enterprise about their appearance in TOS. The Disco Klingons just look ridiculous with regard to all of that, and the changes totally unnecessary bordering on offensive.
There will be a fourth generation of Star Trek.... but only the third generation will be True Trek.
Never did I think I'd see DS9 go from underrated to overrated, VOY become accepted, and ENT become seen as a faithful prequel. But all I had to do was wait 20 years.
DS9 brought it to light, and ENT answered it. Maybe DIS should have just accepted and respected the answer provided by ENT and moved on, instead of ignoring and trying to erase the answer provided?
The worst thing that ever happened the Klingons for me is the stupid ENT augment virus episode.
DS9 made a quick comment about it which was bad enough but elaborating in ENT was worse. We all know why the changes were made IRL and just leave it at that.
Also the TMP sketch of Klingons as Lobster people that DIS fans use to justify the new look was awful looking and thank God it wasn't used
DS9 made a quick comment about it which was bad enough but elaborating in ENT was worse. We all know why the changes were made IRL and just leave it at that.
Also the TMP sketch of Klingons as Lobster people that DIS fans use to justify the new look was awful looking and thank God it wasn't used
Did it not occur to you that maybe the Klingons tried multiple times to get back to their "correct" look and this was one of their efforts?
The Klingons wouldn't just accept this virus for over 100 years. They would try to fix it. And fixing it probably wasn't easy. It very likely took a lot of trial and error before they got the results they wanted. Obviously the DSC Klingons were an over-correction they needed to fix.
And, before you answer, bear in mind I already said I don't like the DSC look for the Klingons.
Enterprise didn’t answer it completely. The episode only said a handful of colonies were infected in that story, not the entire empire.
Kirk just happened to only encounter the descendants of the infected.
Yes, as a joke.
Yes, I did. Doesn’t change the fact that DIS did not provide an adequate explanation, knowing full well that they had set the show a decade before TOS and that ENT answered the forehead ridges question.
It be easier if the DIS team just admitted they goofed up and that they set the first season too close to TOS.
They didn’t goof up though. So why should they lie?
Moving DSC to the 32nd Century is as close to admittance as we're going to get.
I'm pretty sure one day they'll make a shitty Short Trek episode about this very subject. It won't be very good. But it'll be there. Especially since I think SNW will blast this issue wide open again when they eventually have Klingons on that show.
I had just assumed something along those lines, like perhaps their efforts to remove the effects of the Augment virus had an atavistic effect, resurrecting ancestral Klingon genetics from earlier in their species’ evolution that had been previously lost.
I’d really love to see Klingons on SNW that look like they’re straight out of Discovery, TOS, Into Darkness, TMP, and everything between TNG and ENT. Show every variety together.
I may be in the minority, but I don’t really need the Klingons to be “more alien.” TOS used them as Soviet stand-ins and vehicles for real-life social commentary, so their human appearance made sense. That approach is much more interesting to me than any amount of pretend culture building. The honor and glory stuff bored me to tears, and I can’t really see the benefit of adding pounds of latex that make it harder for the actors to act.
In general, the SF trappings of Star Trek interest me only to the extent that they let the show say things about the human condition.
In general, the SF trappings of Star Trek interest me only to the extent that they let the show say things about the human condition.
I mean, that's fair, but they are presented as alien in Trek. So, expanding upon presented cultural ideas is expected.
I think they should do more of this. The Kelvin films had some neat alien designs. One of my quibbles about Trek and Trek films in particular is that they don't name many of the background species, unlike Star Wars. They are often sitting on some interesting designs/aliens that could (should) be fleshed out. I would've rather had them bring back the Into Darkness Klingon design over the DISCO Klingons.
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