A show with characters created in 1964. Got it.
The worlds will be strange and new, though.
Star Trek: Strange New Worlds. Confirmed.
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The worlds will be strange and new, though.
I'd have preferred a new ship and crew, but this is what CBS is putting on the table.
I hope they don't. Printed office paper on a 23rd century starship? That would be too weird.
I'm guessing if Pike can have the holographic systems on his ship ripped out on a whim, he can install printers if he so chooses.
I owe you a belated apology. Two years ago, I thought you were a hypocrite. I thought you were using double-standards for DSC just because you didn't like the series. Now I see you've been consistent with your complaints across series. And I can see the through-line with your stance.
Oh, I'm with you on that. I would've preferred that ST09 have been a straight up reboot with no ties to the original continuity......but a lot of fans shit their pants in rage over this new Trek "overwriting" (lolwut?!) the old Trek. I would've preferred for DSC to be a reboot of Trek as well.
You did get a new ship and crew....it was called Discovery.
HERETIC!!!!!1111!!ONE!!
(insert tired "you are not of the body" joke here)
I'd kill for a high octane starship battle scene where they need some info, and there's this long, quiet scene where it slowly prints out dot matrix style and they have to wait it for it to print. All we hear is that dot matrix sound as we watch the paper slowly funnel out of the printer, the occasional pan to the characters watching it. Maybe it runs out of toner or something to throw some comedy in there.
What I would like to see
No Lieutenant or Commander Kirk, Sulu, Uhura, McCoy and Scotty
More Andorian and Tellarite crew
Doctor Phlox cameo (Denobulans are long lived)
First contact episode with Betazed, led by Number One since its a matriachal culture
Admiral Robeau as Pike's mentor
Pike becomes a closet alcoholic due to borath (meth) crystal dreams
What I will get
None of the above
No Lieutenant or Commander Kirk, Sulu, Uhura, McCoy and Scotty
More Andorian and Tellarite crew
Doctor Phlox cameo (Denobulans are long lived)
First contact episode with Betazed, led by Number One since its a matriachal culture
Admiral Robeau as Pike's mentor
Pike becomes a closet alcoholic due to borath (meth) crystal dreams
What I will get
None of the above
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Probably explains his 1960's attitude to female yeomans, he has a mid 20th century fetish
What would Betazed have in common with Angel One apart from a female dominated society? It would make a change from the mainly male dominated ones that were shown every week. Were they all the same?Not sure I can do another "Angel One".
Canon is the body of work of whatever is televised. It is not the Holy writ of the blessed Star Trek
I'm still a huge ass with plenty of double-standards. I just want Trek to push the boundaries, I want to see new things that captured the imagination (like the Spore Drive but not used to just connect canon dots). I want to be wowed like I was when the Enterprise went to the edge of the universe in TNG's "Where No One Has Gone Before". I had great interest in Pike's supposed religious personality and how it connected to the Red Angel before they cut it off at the knees with the departure of some of the staff (Harberts and Berg?).
Discovery just seemed like this huge missed opportunity based on some of its plot elements. Picard I simply grew bored of.
I wonder if folks were moaning in 1964 that Star Trek was not like Forbidden Planet
Anyway, even if I dislike some of the stories, I will still watch it to lust after Anson Mount.
So the fanfic sites will have another Star Trek category to add to the list! Yeah!
Anyway, even if I dislike some of the stories, I will still watch it to lust after Anson Mount.
So the fanfic sites will have another Star Trek category to add to the list! Yeah!
Completely thankless job.
But one that pays very well.
And for them I'm sure it matters little that people hate them.
It's still tiresome to listen to that hate no matter what they do.
Indeed.Part of fandom dues.
I see this notion all the time these days, and it strikes me as one of the weirder turns in Trek fandom. Canon, by definition, can refer to select works, rather than the entirety of something — the canonical books of the Bible. That use used to be common in Trek fandom, and it makes much more sense to me than the largely useless interpretation of “everything broadcast ever,” especially as the franchise discards chunks of what came before.
Other long-running fandoms, such as comic fans and Doctor Who fans, regularly talk about which facts and events are “canon,” and those discussions would be pretty miserable without the word. (Well, even more miserable.)
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"Hallelujah! PRAAAAAAAIIIIIISE THE LOOOOOOORD!!!!!!"
"Can ah hear an Amen?!"
"Amen!"
"Ah said can ah heeeeear an A-men?!"
"AMEN!!!!!!!"
"Praise the Great Bird! He had with Him a Vision! Gene's Vision!"
"Amen!"
"Ah can hear the song! Sing the sooonnnnggggg!"
Beyond
The rim of the star-light
My love
Is wand'ring in star-flight
I know
He'll find in star-clustered reaches
Love,
Strange love a star woman teaches.
I know
His journey ends never
His star trek
Will go on forever.
But tell him
While he wanders his starry sea
Remember, remember me.
"Hallelujah!"
That's true in Star Trek. TAS was nonCanon for quite awhile. Now it is. Currently the Council of CBS All Access determines the canon.
Definitely agree, especially with that last part. The Menagerie has always been one of my favorite stories because it gave us a glimpse of our familiar ship......with completely different people (aside from a very different Mr. Spock) aboard her. THAT is what made it so compelling to me. Who were these people? What were they like? What adventures did *they* have?
I don't like when writers, who know the outcome, start making things seem pre-ordained and overly engaging in small universe kind of stuff.
An example of the former is how lame the Klingons seemed in the premiere of ENT and how dangerous they seemed in the premiere of DSC. In ENT they're all "They're called Klingots" aaaaand that's about it. in DSC they're like "Oh......shit. Those incredibly brutal, warrior aliens are looking at us.....!!" Which is how it shoud've been in those early days. But B&B had spent too much time in the 24th century and just couldn't write the Klingons and humans as if it wasn't a foregone conclusion, so the humans didn't react to the Klingons any differently than an American might react to someone from Belgium.
Alden would be a nice easter egg to the fans, would add some needed diversity and they'd be able to develop the character much more than he ever got in the past. Mitchell.....Meh. I always figured Kirk brought him along based on Dehner's words.
I'm not a fan of him being a regular, but I'm okay with a two episode guest stint. Or the inevitable Farragut (or whatever ship he was on after) show that eventually ends as Kirk jumps over to Strange New Worlds as captain in about seven years.
I agree with you about the curiosity about “The Cage” Enterprise crew. I was a big fan of the Early Voyages comic which provided some of those answers, and I just hope that Early Voyages gets some nods in Strange New Worlds.
I’m going through Enterprise Season 1, in an attempt to watch the first season all the way through for the first time, and there is a kind of sameness to the other Berman Trek series, even down to the background music. I miss Berman Trek and Enterprise’s first season is coming off better than it did for me when the season originally ran, but it didn’t do enough to break away from other Berman Trek series, and it felt a bit stodgy-back then-compared to the other peak or prestige 21st century television series, or even just some of the other genre offerings.
I never cared for how the first contact with the Klingons was depicted on ENT and I still don’t. I wish that ENT had not even had the Klingons on there. The Andorians could’ve been a good stand-in antagonistic warrior race. Though I liked ENT’s Klingon starship designs, then and now, and I like them much better than what we got on DISCO, the Klingons did come off more like the 24th century Klingons instead of TOS Klingons, and it would’ve been nice that with ENT being a prequel they looked more to TOS than the 24th century. Manny Coto got it in ways B&B didn’t, and for me, that’s why Season 4 especially resonated; though I think things started getting consistently more interesting in Season 3.
Now looking through ENT Season 1 though I do think they tried to make human exploration seem newer to the human characters and more disconcerting than I realized back then, or didn’t see because I also was used to the Berman Trek style.
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