Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x10 - "Et in Arcadia Ego, Part 2"

[Dale Sams]

Come for the character exploration, stay for the positronic brain porn!


Which begs a few questions. Did Data have a positronic matrix to back up to in the time of Nemesis? If not, how could the backup function? If so, did he kill the backup every time he created a new backup?

Technobabble but Maddox recovered a cell (somehow i guess from the Nemesis battle site) and used the engrams from B4

But AGAIN...as we we're running into with Westworld and X-Men comics et al and any situation where someone dies and we clone them....we run into questions of consciousness, afterlife, why should i give a shit about a clone/android recreation?

"They scanned your engrams".....annnnnnd? So really, Picard is dead, and this golem just thinks it has Picards consciousness?

UGH SUCH A HEADACHE.

 

[IMC Headquarters]

I'm disappointed Oh didn't order her armada to fire at Will.

 

[Yistaan]

Technobabble but Maddox recovered a cell (somehow i guess from the Nemesis battle site) and used the engrams from B4

But AGAIN...as we we're running into with Westworld and X-Men comics et al and any situation where someone dies and we clone them....we run into questions of consciousness, afterlife, why should i give a shit about a clone/android recreation?

"They scanned your engrams".....annnnnnd? So really, Picard is dead, and this golem just thinks it has Picards consciousness?

UGH SUCH A HEADACHE.

To be fair, transporters likely already create a duplicate (see Thomas Riker) and kills the originals, with all the Trek characters having been killed and a duplicate that has their memories and personality emerges at the beamdown site.

It seems they tried to make Soong androids more like biology, with each "positronic neuron" (whatever that is) containing Data's "DNA". For all we know Data actually gave a positronic neuron to Maddox (in real life even humans lose brain cells as they age and some of those cells aren't replaced).

Despite what Agnes said in the season premiere about each positronic neuron containing an android's memory, I think Data's memory was taken from B4.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Blame Game of Thrones.

Are the showmakers holding swords to people's throats forcing them to overuse the phrase to the point of cliche?

No but maybe somebody should have told considering that Riker is so important to Picard.

Picard was clearly keeping it from Riker deliberately.

especially since I don't think we have worked out the protocol of torches and social distancing

Being burned alive would be a good way to kill the virus.

I'm giving this episode a 10/A. But it's not a solid 10. It's probably one of the weakest 10s I gave to all episodes this season

I think that's what the 9 is for.

STIIII

Not how Roman numerals work.

To go meta, I wonder if Picard is a metaphor for Star Trek itself? He was terminally ill, dormant for years, and now he's been resurrected, revived, and will continue on, just not in the same place he was before.

Well, Picard definitely hasn't been visually rebooted, but an argument could be made that he's now at least 25% different.

stick the landing

stick the landing

I may have to create a jar for this.

 

[Tomalak]

The robot tentacles coming through the portal were the same things that crunched Pike and Tyler's shuttle in Disco, right?

 

[Tomalak]

Also the whole scanning your brain and putting it in an Android body thing - Ira Graves sees you.

 

[uniderth]

Not how Roman numerals work.

Tell that to the Romans.

 

[wayoung]

Tell that to the Romans.

Beat me to it

 

[Nerys Myk]

It’s actually from a novel. Explaining the name difference.

DRINK!

 

[Bollie74]

I am kind of sad it's done. Every week for ten weeks I have gotten up at 5, watched the new episode twice and then dragged myself to work. I even set up a weekly viewing party with my team at work every Friday (before the quarantine). Even with it being disappointing or infuriating at times I was always hungry for the next episode. Now it's done for the year, and likely going to be delayed past Jan 2021 due to the quarantine. And the production team is always so tight lipped about everything... No idea when Disco will start...whining over.

 

[cooleddie74]

The robot tentacles coming through the portal were the same things that crunched Pike and Tyler's shuttle in Disco, right?

Great. Now I have to remember that junk.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Nah. Rura Penthe for her.

New Zealand.

 

[Dale Sams]

I think its funny how older shows:

Ira Graves
Those sparkly criminal consciousnesses in TNG
Turnabout Intruder

Specify that these are enities moving their actual consciousness (soul by any other name) around

While newer shows and comics flat out say they are making copies.But ignore that fact.

 

[cooleddie74]

A second pair of handcuffs?
Whipped cream?
Kasseelian opera?
A holodeck with the safety protocols removed?

It's as if you know me!

 

[EJD1984]

Overall I liked the episode, but I have very strong mixed feelings about how they handled Data.

If I'm not mistaken, it had been strongly implied that Data would have a very long life span. Brent Spiner said that if there had been another TNG movie, the plan was to bring Data back through B4.

In theory, Data is still on the three (mega) isolinear chips. Just unplugged.

I'm now holding out hope that Q will show up in the third/final season, and in the last scene...........

 

[Makarov]

Imagine if season 2 doesnt even mention Picard is an android body

 

[Dale Sams]

Overall I liked the episode, but I have very strong mixed feelings about how they handled Data.

If I'm not mistaken, it had been strongly implied that Data would have a very long life span. Brent Spiner said that if there had been another TNG movie, the plan was to bring Data back through B4.

In theory, Data is still on the three (mega) isolinear chips. Just unplugged.

I'm now holding out hope that Q will show up in the third/final season, and in the last scene...........

I think the positronic brain was in the light thingie. And it daid.

 

[Dale Sams]

Imagine if season 2 doesnt even mention Picard is an android body

Bet they show that the closing red portal actually cut off a piece of the tentacle thingie. And that plays into next season.

 

[cooleddie74]

Imagine if season 2 doesnt even mention Picard is an android body

That's along the lines of what I was thinking. It may be a secret that only Picard and the crew of La Sirena know about and even Riker may never find out. All of Picard's friends may go the rest of their lives and never know he died and was reborn in a Synth body.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I thought Picard looked more invigorated and younger in the last scenes. Kudos to Sir Pat.