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USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?

"Cheapskate" TOS? For 1966-69 it was one of the most expensive one-hour series on television. That just seemed like an ad hominem for the sake of taking a poke at 1960s budgets and F/X limitations. Had Roddenberry and his production team been able to afford some things they would have paid to create them.

Yep. I hate the revisionist history that TOS was cheap.
 
It wasn't directed at anyone in particular. Just the general body of fandom out there who doesn't like TOS because it's "old" and "cheesy" and likes to come up with allegedly funny and witty ways to criticize it for being a product of the 1960s.

I see plenty and not necessarily in this forum or on TBBS.
 
It wasn't directed at anyone in particular. Just the general body of fandom out there who doesn't like TOS because it's "old" and "cheesy" and likes to come up with allegedly funny and witty ways to criticize it for being a product of the 1960s.

I see plenty and not necessarily in this forum or on TBBS.

That's true. Obviously I've seen it in several places too, unfortunately. On here, outside of here, and even before I was online.

It wasn't exactly on the forefront of my mind while watching "Such Sweet Sorrow", but nevertheless.

As I've mentioned before elsewhere: that's why I didn't mind that certain things from TOS were re-introduced in the first two seasons of DSC. Without DSC and the Kelvin Films there are probably a ton of fans who wouldn't even be bothered to look at or talk about anything relating to TOS. If they're getting people to look at things from TOS even if it's not TOS itself, then it's getting them exposed to those characters and concepts. That's a good thing.
 
Agreed.

The more TOS anything that can be used on DSC the better for the future of the series. They chose this time period and now they have to make it work.

Tapping into nostalgia for arguably the greatest one-hour sci-fi series in history is a good way of going about achieving that.
 
It wasn't cheap by any measure but it didn't have the means to put all of its ideas to screen, that's for sure.
Same with Star Wars, Lucas wanted to do a lot of things but the technology just wasnt available or cost far too much.

Sometimes its not a bad thing, it keeps Directors feet on the ground and forces them to really think about the difference between want and need.

Special effects can do pretty much anything these days and it looks great but because of that its not really special any more.
 
Same with Star Wars, Lucas wanted to do a lot of things but the technology just wasnt available or cost far too much.

Sometimes its not a bad thing, it keeps Directors feet on the ground and forces them to really think about the difference between want and need.

Special effects can do pretty much anything these days and it looks great but because of that its not really special any more.
I have thought for a while that most modern films would be greatly improved if the budgets were halved. Not being able to do bloody pointless half an hour CGI action sequences would force them to have more plot and dialogue.
 
Agreed.

The more TOS anything that can be used on DSC the better for the future of the series. They chose this time period and now they have to make it work.

Tapping into nostalgia for arguably the greatest one-hour sci-fi series in history is a good way of going about achieving that.
Well they don’t need to anymore.
 
As I've mentioned before elsewhere: that's why I didn't mind that certain things from TOS were re-introduced in the first two seasons of DSC. Without DSC and the Kelvin Films there are probably a ton of fans who wouldn't even be bothered to look at or talk about anything relating to TOS. If they're getting people to look at things from TOS even if it's not TOS itself, then it's getting them exposed to those characters and concepts. That's a good thing.
Exactly so. That's why I love the use of "The Cage" footage and exploring that story in such a touching way. Not everyone has seen that episode, save for the clips from "The Menagerie." Being a rather large Pike fan it was easy for me to be excited to see that exploration of something I consider iconic. And, yes, exposing it to fans who might not have seen it can only be beneficial :)
 
Yup. And I'm still of the mindset that the decision to whizbang Disco into the distant future will - in the long run - be seen as a poor choice (logistically, if not creatively).
 
Yup. And I'm still of the mindset that the decision to whizbang Disco into the distant future will - in the long run - be seen as a poor choice (logistically, if not creatively).

What’s funny is that every Star Trek series since TOS didn’t hit their stride until at least the start of their third seasons. But none of them ever completely changed their premise for their third seasons either. I too will be interested in seeing where DSC goes from here. It has certainly been a show where the producers really had no idea what their show was supposed to be about. Maybe they’ll figure it out now.
 
As a random observation, I find it very strange the comments I see complaining that DSC is going into the future. When, especially in this thread, there were a large number of comments of how DSC was ruining prior canon, from the size of the Enterprise to the crew complement and auxillary craft.

So, the production team, with new leadership spearheading a bold idea, go into the future. And what becomes of that? Complaining that they have no idea what they are doing! :shrug:

Is there not one single positive that can be thought of for Discovery going into the future? Not one that can be discussed rather than continuous lament regarding DSC's production team?
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As a random observation, I find it very strange the comments I see complaining that DSC is going into the future. When, especially in this thread, there were a large number of comments of how DSC was ruining prior canon, from the size of the Enterprise to the crew complement and auxillary craft.

So, the production team, with new leadership spearheading a bold idea, go into the future. And what becomes of that? Complaining that they have no idea what they are doing! :shrug:

Is there not one single positive that can be thought of for Discovery going into the future? Not one that can be discussed rather than continuous lament regarding DSC's production team?

We knew this months ago.
 
I'm very interested in seeing the Discovery and her crew in the late 32nd century. For all the show's problems I nitpick this doesn't rank as one at the moment.
 
When Discovery was conceived, it was as an anthology show. When it was produced it was as a stand-alone show. When they were plotting the end of season 2, Discovery was now just part of Star Trek Universe, with a ton of other shows in production (even though some, like the Khan miniseries, never made it). The Section 31 show will carry on the 23rd century adventures of Ash Tyler, Georgiou, L'Rell and probably have cameos from others. If the Pike series happens, it'll be set there too.

Discovery gets to be on the bleeding edge of a bigger Trek universe.
 
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