Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by EJD1984, Jul 24, 2017.
What are the canon TOS dimensions?
This is precisely why conversations about "making sense of the fictional" with respect to details are a complete waste of time and energy.
Especially when the show prioritizes “wouldn’t it be cool?” and “how can we amp it up?” over “does it make sense?”
Eh? If you read the design process in the BTS material released so far for the ships. For the Enterprise at least they tried to make the design choices make sense.
Unless I'm misinterpreting your post.
This implies that it never happened in Star Trek before...?
Sorry, I wasn’t clear. I was referring more to the general storytelling approach than the design work. If hundreds of shuttlecraft need to come flying out out of the Enterprise, they will, regardless of whether they would actually fit.
Hundreds of attack drones pouring out of any version of the NCC-1701 would be eyeroll-inducing and look stupid but that's just my opinion.
Yeah, it's a rather odd addition to the Trek franchise.
Not to mention R2D2 popping out of the saucer to star fixing things
Not as over-the-top obnoxious but still very annoying. I'd have eliminated the Wall-E robots without even a second thought and never looked back.
Even the Section 31 ships had literally hundreds of drones popping out of hatches on them. Mind you at least they had cool looking ships.
Well, R2 was already a part of Star Trek canon, at least in the Kelvin universe. Unfortunately, those droids were not successful in their repairs. RIPD.
Tried and failed.
Kirk's ship always spawned drones left and right in TOS, too. "Hundreds" were involved in one episode only, but this was not treated as a special occasion by the heroes themselves in any respect.
That the VFX team now can afford to show visuals when the CO Character says "Deploy the probes/satellites/tri-isophasic reflectors, Mr. Button-Pushing Character!" is the one new thing here. That, and the concept of repair robots, although those might always have been implicit in the concept of "damage control teams".
The weirdest part is how much money they spend on crap like this.
Did anybody like the turbolift fun-house? How long did it take to model and animate R2D2, and what did he add to the story? Did the battle got any more exciting only because the screen was littered with objects exploding?
I think that money could have at least bought another alien planet, plot-relevant starships or intricate new alien species a few episodes earlier. Hell, even a look inside the machinations of "control" before and after its heel-turn would have added more to the story!
Meeeeeeeee! I loved it.
Otherwise you've got a ship bigger than the Enterprise-D with a crew of 150.
Plus, just wait until they do their version of "Disaster" and the crew are climbing between habitable areas of the ship...
It established that they've got a means to repair external damage. Plus, we were told from the very start that this incarnation of Trek would feature robots.
Really, so many of these complaints are about rejecting change. You'd prefer we never saw how external damage is repaired and just had to imagine it like a low budget bottle episode? Why, now we can depict it affordably?
That whole battle is nonsensical. It's unfortunate because I thought the second-season setup was pretty good.
What episode was that?
Closest I can think of is the giant inflatable decoy from that animated episode.
They really need to bring that back.
In "Operation: Annihilate" the Enterprise uses a network of self-deployed satellites to shoot UV-light on the colony to defeat the light-sensible alien parasites. I guess that's what he's referring to.
Though those were just satellites, and it's already been established Federation ships carry a large number of probes with them (the NX-01 and VOY often showed them, on TNG they were shot from the torpedo bay) - that's a thing that makes sense for a science vessel! Those never carried weapons or shields though, and deployment took quite some time. Otoh - those probes were the size of photon torpedoes, and they carry a whole lot of them, too.
So if we want to be generous, the ship has space for a large number of
drones (though small ones), or they might have used their probes to do kamikaze against Control's actual drones. It's not impossible. I just wish "tactics" would have played a larger part in that battle, instead of out just looking like a nuBSG battle.
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