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Kurtzman Out?

We've started flat out deleting mentions of these youtube edjits in the Star trek shitposting group on FB.
It concerns me how wide some of their BS has gone.

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As an aside, when did it become socially acceptable on TREKBBS to insult TNG?

I see people dismissing it as sort of "old guff" all the time these days?

Just seems odd especially when any critique of discovery, no matter how mild, raises heckles like you wouldn't belive.

Can't we just let people enjoy why they enjoy

I’ve been a Star Trek fan since the early 1970s, and an online Star Trek fan since before the web, going back to the days of CompuServe and usenet. The one thing I keep running into online is that many, many fans who came in through TNG bought the Saint Gene koolaid and think TNG is the perfect representation of what Star Trek was always supposed to be, TOS is an unimportant dated old show that isn’t worth watching, DS9 and Voyager and Discovery are PC SJW pandering, blah blah blah. TNG had some absolute classic episodes. It also started off horrendous and its last couple of seasons were also, on average, feeble. It needs to be criticized, just as every other incarnation does. None of them is perfect. But they all have their moments.

Well, maybe Nerdrotic is discredited, but I never presented the assertion as fact. I questioned it as well, so I posted on a discussion forum. It seems to have generated some interesting discussion.

Thirty seconds on Google would have shown you that you were willfully spreading manure.
 
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Bounding into Comics is an alt-right/ comics gate site that spreads misinformation, they are not a source to be trusted.

Edit: I used to like talking about nerd stuff because it used to be fun, now nerd news filled with alt-right lunatics who just complain about everything, they complain about Star Trek, Star Wars, Doctor Who, Captain Marvel or even something aimed at kids like She-Ra, talking about how ''SJW ruined my childhood.''

But all these people do, is complain, when they ever offered constructive criticism? If they don't like the current direction these series are going in, what creative vision are they putting forward instead? It seems like they are putting nothing forward, just wanting to repeat the past, over and over again. Nerd nostalgia is not a creative vision.

When these people complain about ''SJWs are ruining my favorite franchise with politics'', what do they want? To do away with social commentary in fiction entirely, to have purely good vs. evil stories? Because franchises like Star Trek or X-Men have social commentary as their bread and butter.
 
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That sounds like the most boring thing ever:

''It's a story with a heterosexual white male protagonist that has no character flaws, and who punches out some generic bad guy with no redeeming qualities and the only female character is a damsel in distress who falls for the hero after being recused. Also, the story is about as deep as a puddle and has nothing interesting say.''

These people want to turn anything creative or artistic into the blandest and most generic tripe ever.
 
That sounds like the most boring thing ever:

''It's a story with a heterosexual white male protagonist that has no character flaws, and who punches out some generic bad guy with no redeeming qualities and the only female character is a damsel in distress who falls for the hero after being recused. Also, the story is about as deep as a puddle and has nothing interesting say.''

These people want to turn anything creative or artistic into the blandest and most generic tripe ever.
Safe and predictable. That is what is desired nowadays. Comfort food media,
 
Bounding into Comics is an alt-right/ comics gate site that spreads misinformation, they are not a source to be trusted.

Edit: I used to like talking about nerd stuff because it used to be fun, now nerd news filled with alt-right lunatics who just complain about everything, they complain about Star Trek, Star Wars, Doctor Who, Captain Marvel or even something aimed at kids like She-Ra, talking about how ''SJW ruined my childhood.''

But all these people do, is complain, when they ever offered constructive criticism? If they don't like the current direction these series are going in, what creative vision are they putting forward instead? It seems like they are putting nothing forward, just wanting to repeat the past, over and over again. Nerd nostalgia is not a creative vision.

When these people complain about ''SJWs are ruining my favorite franchise with politics'', what do they want? To do away with social commentary in fiction entirely, to have purely good vs. evil stories? Because franchises like Star Trek or X-Men have social commentary as their bread and butter.

Ding. Ding. Ding.
You almost got it entirely: They DO NOT care about stories. They do care about alt-right politics. Only.

They don't care about social commentary or story complexity or characterisations. They want to get white males riled up against social change. And SF IS a genre heavily dominated by white, male audiences. That's why they are here. But they never offer any wishes on their own. They're just here for the politics.

That's why you will never see a "SJWs ruined rap" or "SJWs ruined Jane Austen"-video.
 
But what's their endgame? Pissing people off? Trying to make change? Well, if it's the first point, let's consider their audience sizes:

Clicks and making money........hell they've even got suckers funding their trips to STLV on GoFundMe pages...........:brickwall:

Thirty seconds on Google would have shown you that you were willfully spreading manure.

THIS---Hell I have fallen for clickbait before and I am sure I will again, but I damn sure find valid, trusted, sources and verify ANYTHING before I share it. With Sci-Fan and actual news. We would be much better off today if everyone did.
 
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