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Kurtzman Out?

At this point, this thread is a study of how clearly fabricated rumors are started, spread and how no matter the content some people will always believe them to a varying degree. It's very educational :)
Also a lesson in sources, and the need for primary sources vs. tertiary.
 
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Ignoring the whole issue of the fact that this entire "Fandom Menace" thing is for clicks and genuinely works within the realm of confirmation bias, I don't know how these people think their sources pass muster. I mean, eventually Star Trek: Discovery will end its run. Eventually, they will stop making Star Wars movies. Eventually, Rian Johnson, Alex Kurtzman, Kathleen Kennedy and Brie Larson will leave the roles that have, according to these morons, ruined their lives.

But what's their endgame? Pissing people off? Trying to make change? Well, if it's the first point, let's consider their audience sizes:

Geeks + Gamers - 168,555 subscribers
Midnight's Edge - 116,931 subscribers
Nerdrotic - 105,904 subscribers
MechaRandom42 - 38,402 subscribers
Overlord DVD (Doomcock) - 35,606 subscribers
Midnight's Edge After Dark - 13,451 subscribers

Even though it is more than likely that there is a ton of overlap between these audiences, at most, there are 478,849 subscribers to these channels. Less than half a million people who are in this Fandom Menace. While the number certainly went down after it went over to CBS All Access, there were 9.5 million viewers to the first episode of Star Trek: Discovery. The Last Jedi sold an estimated 67,594,500 tickets in the U.S. alone. Captain Marvel sold 47,335,700 tickets in the U.S. Adding global box office ticket sales (while that data is unavailable) increases that number drastically. No, its not a good indicator if a film is "good" or not and no its not an indicator if an audience liked a film or not. But its a showing of staying power. The proof in those numbers will be in the sequels. For Star Wars, we'll find out in six months or so. For Captain Marvel, a direct sequel might be a few years off. So, to the second point, its not working.

Look, I'm not saying that people can't have their voices. Go ahead! Make YouTube videos galore about how much you hate something. If that's how you choose to spend your time, that's your business, not mine. But why lie about these things? Why spread these ridiculous rumors that really aren't working? In the end, trusting random rumors off the internet from anonymous sources who say they either work in the industry or have industry contacts, well, it just seems silly to me.
 
Perhaps we should have a sticky thread discrediting their claims, video by video and have each new thread about it merged into it. Then the poster will get to see their long history of falsehoods. Renaming and stickying this one could be the start.
I’ve actually toyed with the idea of doing something like that for a while now. Any opinions?
 
I’ve actually toyed with the idea of doing something like that for a while now. Any opinions?
Sadly, I see it as a necessity for all the videos that keep popping up from this misinformation stream. It gets regurgitated around and around again and again.
 
It only works if they actually care about the points being discussed and have an open mind, or if they are just trolling.
I would imagine that the latter is more likely and the former is unlikely.
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I need to make a video compositing her sermons with some of Archer's homespun never ending wisdom. Queue the soaring music.

There might be enough material for a 30 minute episode. Once when I was in East Africa, I had a chance to see a gazelle writing a script... even so I come to ask myself the same question that young soldier asked the general: are we done yet? But I think it's important.. That We Remember.. The 27 Crewman.. Who died during these speeches waiting for a commercial break to go to the bathroom. Because THAT is Starfleet. We're not like gazelles.
Don't forget to add any of Picard's endless (and sometimes very hypocritical given some of his actions) moralizing speeches for balance. ;)
 
Should I do it, it won't affect this thread, as I'd want to start the new thread with a post explaining its purpose, and couldn't do that if it was merged with an older existing thread. I am forbidden to interfere with human history.
 
Midnight's Edge - 116,931 subscribers
Nerdrotic - 105,904 subscribers

Versus 2.5 million CBSAA Subscribers. Quantifiable proof that Loud Opinions aren't More Opinions. Nice to know that the Star Trek community's own Alex Jones and Sean Hannity only have 5% of DSC's potential domestic audience, not including anyone who watches outside the US.
 
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Versus 2.5 million CBSAA Subscribers. Quauntifiable proof that Loud Opinions aren't More Opinions. Nice to know that the Star Trek community's own Alex Jones and Sean Hannity only have 5% of DSC's potential domestic audience, not including anyone who watches outside the US.

Unfortunately, that five percent can do a lot of damage when properly motivated. See: Star Trek Into Darkness, and our current POTUS.
 
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