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Kurtzman Out?

Bullshit would be a good name for the thread, but I doubt the masters would approve.

Or "Opinion Pieces Where Our Magical Mystery Sources May or May Not Be the Same as the Ones All the Others in our Menace Cliquedom Use". What's funny is who has x number of subscribers despite not being all that good (or downright worse compared to others on that list yet is above them, oddly), but there aren't many of them I'd want to mention anymore since a number of them just put out drek, too wound up in their Star Wars cause to forget all the blunders Star Wars I-VI had made. Or other things.. But as with all things, some of those "Fandom Menace" people sometimes say things that aren't untrue or not based in a silly obscure rumor that everyone seems to know about.

And like it or not, a new series may not be what we want from it but if it carries the franchises' values, what problem is there or how big is the problem (depends on what the "problem" is deemed as being)? DS9 was arguably contentious back in the day as well. As were VOY and ENT, though not always for the same reasons or even remotely similar ones. And it's a form of art and all art is subjective. Just like the youtube critic channels that put on their own shows.

Versus 2.5 million CBSAA Subscribers. Quauntifiable proof that Loud Opinions aren't More Opinions. Nice to know that the Star Trek community's own Alex Jones and Sean Hannity only have 5% of DSC's potential domestic audience, not including anyone who watches outside the US.

Yes, except I might opine we're comparing apples and sparrows. CBSAA covers far, far, far, far more shows and with their own narrative style (they're not exactly TV or movie critics, they just make the stuff for all the Siskel & Ebert proteges to comment on, and some of their stuff contains commentary too).

And, yes, those "Fandom Menace" folks (like or dislike or anywhere in between) sometimes do appearingly seem to share the mystery sources or have plot holes in some of their narratives (rose-hued spectacles regarding a certain OT, ST, and PT series of films are definitely head-scratchin' material), and are occasionally right. Just like every other human or group of humans.

But, yeah, they're all the same - providing entertainment and entertainment is as varied as audience desires.

You forgot to mention Paul Joseph Watson and Jimmy Dore in that other allegory too. :D
 
Sadly, I see it as a necessity for all the videos that keep popping up from this misinformation stream. It gets regurgitated around and around again and again.

I’m of the opinion that the people starting threads like this here and on Facebook are heavily involved with the youtubers and start these threads to spread rumors and get clicks and just hide behind the “this just randomly showed up on my YouTube” and “I’m just asking questions and I’m just posting this to discuss”. I don’t believe they just innocently found the video and decided to make a post about it. Call me cynical.
 
I don't watch the YouTube stuff.

So, everybody hates all the new Star Trek and the franchise is canceled?

Crap, what else did I miss? :techman:

They made Picard evil, STD sucks except for Pike, anyone who likes these shows was paid to say so, SJWs, Michael Burnham is a Mary Sue, Orville is Star Trek now...

... I think I covered all the bases. Wait, no. JFK, J Edgar Hoover, Nostradamus, Area 51, Ancient Astronauts, and Illuminati. Now I've got it all. The Loch Ness Monster too. Or as the Scottish call him, Nessie.
 
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I'm not sure why any of you guys even bother with this $&@#% any more.

I mean honestly, is this garbage ever right?
 
I'm not sure why any of you guys even bother with this $&@#% any more.

I mean honestly, is this garbage ever right?

I only recently gave them some clicks after a long time just to see how truly terrible they were. I am no longer making that mistake.
 
I don't watch the YouTube stuff.

So, everybody hates all the new Star Trek and the franchise is canceled?

Crap, what else did I miss? :techman:

Picard is the leader of Section 31. Audiences hate the Picard show. DSC is cancelled but they are still going to film and air season 3 in order to prevent people from finding out. Netflix wants out of discovery. The licensees are demanding that Kurtzman trek adhere to canon and the look and feel of trek which is delaying filming on Picard which they re-do all the visuals for DSC and Picard.

oh yeah, Alec Peters managed to even piss off the youtubers who hate current star trek.
 
Picard is the leader of Section 31. Audiences hate the Picard show. DSC is cancelled but they are still going to film and air season 3 in order to prevent people from finding out. Netflix wants out of discovery. The licensees are demanding that Kurtzman trek adhere to canon and the look and feel of trek which is delaying filming on Picard which they re-do all the visuals for DSC and Picard.

oh yeah, Alec Peters managed to even piss off the youtubers who hate current star trek.

They should start a petition to Bring Back Berman, BBB for short. All music for Disco and Picard will be scored by Dennis McCarthy and Jay Chattaway. High conflict in the third season of DSC, sorry I mean STD, will be Michael Burnham wonders about a decision Saru makes and offers an alternative (how dare she!) and then Saru puts her in her place and Burnham realizes by the end that Saru was right all along and she was wrong to question him. "I have my pips for a reason, Michael." Everyone has a laugh at the end. Cue the Jerry Goldsmith theme as Discovery jumps off to the next planet of the week.
 
Picard is the leader of Section 31. Audiences hate the Picard show. DSC is cancelled but they are still going to film and air season 3 in order to prevent people from finding out. Netflix wants out of discovery. The licensees are demanding that Kurtzman trek adhere to canon and the look and feel of trek which is delaying filming on Picard which they re-do all the visuals for DSC and Picard.

oh yeah, Alec Peters managed to even piss off the youtubers who hate current star trek.
Oh, good. I forgot to cancel my CBSAA sub.

I wish Netflix would make up its mind. For cryin' out loud, either carry all the good shows we like or just file bankruptcy. Sheesh. Has Kurtzman not been put in stocks in the public square by now?

OMG, I'm literally having a heart attack.

:techman:
 
Disgruntled fans, unfounded rumours presented as reliable news, and the internet...a match made in hell! Let the good times roll.

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Who hasn’t Alec pissed off these days? Other than a handful of donors who seem to have nothing better to do.

Fair point. I just bring them up because the people who hate current trek are really the perfect people for Alec to bring in to donate to his stuff and as usual he managed to even burn those bridges. It's amazing how many people he's pissed off but pissing off the group most likely to give him money was really really dumb.
 
Fair point. I just bring them up because the people who hate current trek are really the perfect people for Alec to bring in to donate to his stuff and as usual he managed to even burn those bridges. It's amazing how many people he's pissed off but pissing off the group most likely to give him money was really really dumb.

I mean... it is Alec. ;)
 
I’m of the opinion that the people starting threads like this here and on Facebook are heavily involved with the youtubers and start these threads to spread rumors and get clicks and just hide behind the “this just randomly showed up on my YouTube” and “I’m just asking questions and I’m just posting this to discuss”. I don’t believe they just innocently found the video and decided to make a post about it. Call me cynical.
I can see that.

Wait, no. JFK, J Edgar Hoover, Nostradamus, Area 51, Ancient Astronauts, and Illuminati. Now I've got it all. The Loch Ness Monster too. Or as the Scottish call him, Nessie.
Some of these are more plausible than the YT theories and rumors and misinformation.

Think about that.
 
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