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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x14 - "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2"

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Let me put percentages for these predictions:
No timeline reset - 67% (that is 33% chance the timeline will be reset)
No Borg - 90% (still think 10% it IS the borg)
TOS canon is preserved - 95% (at least in mind of Producers)
Discovery jumps in time - 90% (it's pretty much a given at this point)
Shock reveal - 100% (producers can't live without "shock", so you can bet it's gonna happen)
Mostly agree with your percentages.

I'd increase the no timeline reset percentage to 90%--at least in terms of a major timeline reset. It's extremely unlikely that the producers would overwrite their own first two seasons. Even if the characters remember the events, they're not going to wipe out the events that they've worked to build up and the audience has followed for several years. To preserve canon, they'll use time travel to get Discovery to the future rather than rewriting the Discovery's past.

Trying to guess at the shock reveal. It'll have to be something brief that they can flash on the screen at the end and is shocking on face value. Perhaps encountering an aggressive Federation starship from a decaying era? Not sure.
 
With Disney+ having no ads on $6.99 plan, CBSAA better become price competitive real soon :)
Disney+ doesn't hit till Nov. 2.
So I don't expect any of the other services to even consider changing their pricing till Jan 2020.
I'm not even sure Netflix will bother though.

It depends on how big a hit D+ becomes I suppose.
I already know I'll be signing up for it.
Not sure if the Mrs. is going to keep paying for CBSAA at this point.
She's already binged through the stuff she likes and only paid for April so I could watch Discovery.
If D+ turns out to be as good as imagined, we may drop Netflix at some point.
(though I want to see the next season of Lost in Space and Stranger Things)
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Shock reveal - 100% (producers can't live without "shock", so you can bet it's gonna happen)
But what?
Picard appears onscreen. "We've been waiting for you" :D
It's not unlikely that Discovery will have a greeting party waiting for it. If anyone onboard who disembarks Discovery before the jump (e.g, Spock) knows where/when Discovery is aiming, that information can be used by those in the future to meet the ship.
 
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With Disney+ having no ads on $6.99 plan, CBSAA better become price competitive real soon :)

The cost doesn't bother me, it's the content. CBSAA has nothing I want to see, except Star Trek. The new TZ didn't thrill me, so now I guess I'll be waiting to see what CBSAA cooks up next before I subscribe again.
 


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Beautiful poster, as usual, but I almost want it to say "...an Irwin Allen Production" :)
 
The cost doesn't bother me, it's the content. CBSAA has nothing I want to see, except Star Trek. The new TZ didn't thrill me, so now I guess I'll be waiting to see what CBSAA cooks up next before I subscribe again.
And in contrast this is what Disney+ will have: https://deadline.com/2019/04/disney...impsons-streaming-service-1202594496/#pagetop

Disney+ will feature content from Disney, Pixar, Star Wars, Marvel Studios and National Geographic as well as The Simpsons and 20th Century Fox titles including The Sound of Music and Malcolm in the Middle.
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Here is what Disney+ will offer at launch and during its first two years of operation:

LIVE ACTION SERIES:
High School Musical: The Musical: The Series
The 10-episode scripted series, set at the real-life East High, where the original movie was filmed, follows a group of students as they countdown to opening night of their school’s first-ever production of “High School Musical.” With meta references and some docu-style elements, it’s a modern take on the “classic” from 15 years ago. Show-mances blossom; friendships are tested, while new ones are made; rivalries flare; songs are sung; and lives are changed forever as these young people discover the transformative power that only high school theater can provide. Timing: Available at launch

The Mandalorian
The first ever live-action Star Wars series, is written and executive-produced by Emmy®-nominated producer and actor Jon Favreau, with Dave Filoni (“Star Wars: The Clone Wars”) directing the first episode. The highly anticipated series features an all-star cast including Pedro Pascal, Gina Carano, Carl Weathers, Giancarlo Esposito, Emily Swallow, Omid Abtahi, Werner Herzog and Nick Nolte. Set after the fall of the Empire and before the emergence of the First Order, the series follows a lone gunfighter in the outer reaches of the galaxy far from the authority of the New Republic. Timing: Available at launch

Diary of a Female President
Told from the narration of her diary, the series follows a Cuban-American 12-year-old girl as she navigates the ups and downs of middle school and her journey to becoming the future president of the United States. Gina Rodriguez (“Jane the Virgin”) and Emily Gipson (“I Can and I Will”) will executive produce along with Ilana Peña (“Crazy Ex-Girlfriend”). Timing: Year One

The Falcon and The Winter Soldier
Anthony Mackie will return as Falcon and Sebastian Stan will reprise his role as Winter Soldier in the new Marvel Studios series. Timing: Year One

Loki
Tom Hiddleston will reprise his role as Loki in the new Marvel Studios series. Timing: Year Two

Untitled Cassian Andor Series
Diego Luna will reprise his role of rebel spy Cassian Andor in this series set during the formative years of the Rebellion prior to the events of “Rogue One: A Star Wars Story.” The rousing spy thriller will explore tales filled with espionage and daring missions to restore hope to a galaxy in the grip of a ruthless Empire. Alan Tudyk will also reprise his role as K-2SO with Stephen Schiff (“The Americans”) as showrunner and executive producer. Timing: Year Two

WandaVision
Elizabeth Olsen will return as Wanda Maximoff and Paul Bettany will reprise his role as The Vision in the new Marvel Studios series. Timing: Year Two

Forky Asks a Question
Forky, from Disney and Pixar’s “Toy Story 4,” is a craft project created from trash, so he has important questions about how the world works, such as: What is love? What is time? And of course, the deepest question of all, What is cheese? He explores all of these questions and more in a series of 10 shorts. Timing: Available at launch

Oh and much much more and for $7/month. Never thought I'd say this about Disney, EVER, but... shut up and take my money :D
 
I predict no timeline reset and no Borg. I also predicted no MU Lorca last season. So hopefully I am getting better at this.
There might be a time reset, but (IMO) it will not be used to explain why Spock never mentions Burnham in TOS or explain why there is no spore drive in TOS...

That is to say, if there is a reset, I think it will only go back a short time to reset something like the destruction of the Enterprise in this episode (that's just an example),Something like TNG: Cause and Effect or TNG: Time Squared. Or maybe a reset to undo the deaths we saw in Burnham's vision.

I don't think the reset will go back so far as to make Burnham's parents not die/make Burnham not become Spock's foster sister. Nor will a reset go back so far that there is no spore drive or no Klingon War starting at the battle of the Binary Stars.

I really hope we don't get a Bobby-Ewing-in-the-shower moment and have the events seen in the first two seasons of DSC be wiped away.
 
I don't think the reset will go back so far as to make Burnham's parents not die/make Burnham not become Spock's foster sister. Nor will a reset go back so far that there is no spore drive or no Klingon War starting at the battle of the Binary Stars.
I wish there was a way to bet on the forums. Make odds, bet something:

Complete time reset 100:1
Borg showing up: 1000:1
Tilly saying something silly: 1:2
Burnham monologuing: even money

Whoever wins will get points that we can then redeem for something like "be a mod for day". Oh the power I would (ab)use if I was mod for a day :D
 
Right, but I didn't know those companies make it to the credits.

I have never looked in the TV credits. These days of squishing TV credits and the like
I wish there was a way to bet on the forums. Make odds, bet something:

Complete time reset 100:1
Borg showing up: 1000:1
Tilly saying something silly: 1:2
Burnham monologuing: even money

Whoever wins will get points that we can then redeem for something like "be a mod for day". Oh the power I would (ab)use if I was mod for a day :D

I'd put a burnham monologue when they jump into the future at something like 1:100. Almost no way they don't do that.
 
There might be a time reset, but (IMO) it will not be used to explain why Spock never mentions Burnham in TOS or explain why there is no spore drive in TOS...

I really don't get why anyone needs it explained that Spock never mentions her. He never mentioned Sybok in TOS either until he showed up in the movie. So there is a precedent for Spock failing to mention things like that. And Sybok was his half brother. He certainly wouldn't bring up an adopted sister. "Technically you are correct, I do not have a brother."
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The new Twilight Zone is pretty good though.
The questions is is it $10/month pay monthly good? Or can it wait until the next Star Trek series hits CBSAA and then it can be binged on between Star Trek episodes.
That's why CBS wants year round Star Trek on CBSAA. They know Star Trek can get subscribers, other shows not so much (at least not as guaranteed)
 
And in contrast this is what Disney+ will have: https://deadline.com/2019/04/disney...impsons-streaming-service-1202594496/#pagetop


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Oh and much much more and for $7/month. Never thought I'd say this about Disney, EVER, but... shut up and take my money :D

I'm not seeing more content there on Disney+ I want to watch (Keep in mind that all these Marvel/Star Wars series have been touted at super short 6-8 episodes in length so 6 series over 2 years isn't really a whole lot of hours) than I see over the next 2 years on CBSAA (at minimum 4 Trek series, and likely more Strange Angel, Twilight Zone and whatever more gets added in the meantime) or even DC Universe (4-5 live action +2 animated series).

Sure its got a lot of stuff to keep the kiddies occupied, but I'm not a kiddie.
 
I wish there was a way to bet on the forums. Make odds, bet something:

Complete time reset 100:1
Borg showing up: 1000:1
Tilly saying something silly: 1:2
Burnham monologuing: even money

Whoever wins will get points that we can then redeem for something like "be a mod for day". Oh the power I would (ab)use if I was mod for a day :D
Great idea! What are your odds for a Pike series? I'd say even money.
 
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