Hell, Star Wars Episode III doesn't perfectly line up with Star Wars Episode IV. Nor even The Clone Wars for that matter, and that series was produced within three years of Episode III being in theaters.
Just like an automat.Remember "Tomorrow is Yesterday" and the chicken soup that instantly appears from a food slot in the transporter room? Or the time Kirk tried to order a chicken sandwich in "The Trouble with Tribbles"?
They had automatic food slots on TOS. How exactly they worked was never explained.
Hell, Star Wars Episode III doesn't perfectly line up with Star Wars Episode IV. Nor even The Clone Wars for that matter, and that series was produced within three years of Episode III being in theaters.
They line up fine.Hell, Rogue One is supposed to line up with Episode IV to the point where one ends the other is supposed to begin, and it doesn't an a number of important ways that would have been incredibly easy to do if anyone cared.
They line up fine.
But this isn't the thread to argue that.
Yeah, as interesting as Rogue One was and was a very surprising movie I agree that it doesn't line up perfectly well. However, it lines up enough and fits the narrative well enough. It also does a great job of illustrating elements of the Rebellion previously unseen.Hell, Rogue One is supposed to line up with Episode IV to the point where one ends the other is supposed to begin, and it doesn't an a number of important ways that would have been incredibly easy to do if anyone cared.
The only real down note is that Rebecca Romijn isn't doing it for me as Number One right now.
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I think the difference is that what you are seeing as a problem, I see as a positive - I liked the fact that TNG didn't replace Wesley, and just had either extras or a Detmer like minor character in Ensign Ro fill that seat. If there's no story reason for that position to be a main character, then I'm very happy with it not being one. They are there to fill the seat and say "yes sir" and "now showing all stop". That's fine. What Discovery improves on is that it is usually the same people too, so they at least become familiar. Outside of Trek, most shows have such a supporting cast of background players who fulfill this sort of role - SG-1 and BSG are two examples which come to mind. Familiar faces that were in some cases there for almost the whole run of the show, but aren't ever going to do much more than deliver a few lines. Heck, TOS basically did this too, it's just over fifty years we've all become so familiar with the supporting cast we tend to remember their parts as larger than they were. It was TNG that set us down the road of every significant crew position being a regular.
Discovery's approach helps keep the ship seeming real, but without unnecessary main characters to service clogging up the narrative. Or explaining why the doctor and chief engineer keep coming to the bridge for no real reason.
Uh.....what?
Actually, she's just pressing a button which opens the hatches/blinds and lets more light in. The hatches are visibly sliding up. Why would there be hatches if they simply were natural light simulators? It's also worth noting that other windows on the ship (in Pike's ready room, for example) also have bright orange-y light shining through.Well, I'd say because in 2x03 we saw Michael adjusting their brightness. I assume they're windows but they have some kind of natural light simulation going. Also, it would be weird if those windows were bright white two weeks in a row in two different parts of space when all other windows have shown stars and such outside. And sickbay also seems to have windows that aren't actually windows...
But the show is still a ship-based Star Trek show. Similar shows have had in the neighborhood of 8-9 series regular characters, all of whom we know and understand, even if they're seldom the focus of the main narrative.
Exactly.Only if you go by the 1990s model. DISCO is more like classic TOS so far.
Works for me.
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Only if you go by 1990s model. DISCO is more like classic TOS so far.
Works for me.
Heck, I've been rewatching the 1970s version of BUCK ROGERS lately. That show only had three human regulars in its first season: Buck, Wilma, and Docter Huer. There's no rule that says that every space show has to have a big ensemble cast.
I quite agree. What I can't fathom is why, when some fans offer opinions and critiques involving one aspect of this, some other fans always insist on weighing in to say "Why do you care about that? It doesn't matter! What's wrong with you?" IMHO, if X or Y or Z isn't important to your personal enjoyment of a work, bully for you; just stay on the sidelines when others are discussing XYZ, rather than trying to throw a wet blanket over things.Fiction is strange. In general, we can immerse ourselves in a work of fiction ("No, don't go in the basement!") and appreciate it as a work of art ("Wow, the writing is really good in this scene!") simultaneously.
That being said, I do have a pet theory that, even though we all do this to some degree, there's a spectrum here, where some people are more about the immersion--and react negatively to any reminder that they're actually watching a theatrical production--while others lean more toward the aesthetic and don't really need to believe that what's happening is "real" to enjoy it. So some fans find such discrepancies jarring, while some of us just shrug it off as a change in art direction that makes no real difference when it comes to watching a televised entertainment.
Well, sure, that seems reasonable... if everyone can agree on "what it is." But if "what it is" to you is a present-day TV show that's not beholden to anything that's come before, and "what it is" to me is the latest installment in the larger Star Trek universe, and moreover one that owes its entire existence and many of its core characters to TOS, to which it is explicitly a prequel... well, then we're not going to see eye to eye, because our expectations will be very different.The ultimate goal I sear here is to be able to set both your immersion and aesthetic meters to ten as well as unchecking the pre-conceived notions box. I try to watch something being what it is...
2nd season, huh? Then don't forget Hawkman...errr...Hawk or Birdperson, or whatever his name was.please don't mention season 2 - i'd also count twiggy as a regular
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