That's rather black and white thinking.
USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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No, the difference is homage. "In A Mirror Darkly" was basically the penultimate episode of what was expected to be Star Trek's last television episode for quite some time. The series had already been cancelled and they decided to blow what was left of their budget on a special treat for long time fans (before then pissing on everyone with "These are the Voyages").
They mostly are.
And to be honest: TOS did an amazing job for its time and for its budget, but in absolute terms both its sets and props are sub-par. This is equally true of its music and sound effects; I found out a while ago that if you play the "Doomsday Machine" suite at just the right time it perfectly syncs up with the warp intercept scene from "Star Trek Into Darkness", which is totally cool and all, but there's no way in hell the old TOS background music actually belongs in a modern production.
"Let the past die. Kill it if you have to."
How dare you call TOS "sub-par!" I mean, just look at Star Trek continues and how good it looks and all the details.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not...How dare you call TOS "sub-par!" I mean, just look at Star Trek continues and how good it looks and all the details.
I was hoping the winking emoji and the Yoda meme would give it a way.
Yes, I was being sarcastic, largely in anticipation to the counterarguments that you will face.
No, because there’s no such thing as a "visuals only reboot" or a "visual reimagining". It doesn’t exist. It’s a made-up term by fans.
They accessed the files on a Terran Empire database. That is how the Defiant looks there now. They knew it was from their universe, because the database said it was, because of the quantum signature. No one said ‘oh it looks just like one of ours’ so until we see a main universe Connie on screen in DSC there is no reason to assume it will be the cut and shut job in that graphic.
To be fair, it’s a made up term by the production staff/communications staff.
While it is unorthodox, I think it describes what DIS is trying to do quite well. One can debate if it is working or not. It’s kind of like having ones cake and eating it too. But the results are, mixed.
You still wearing bellbottoms or perming your hair?
Babies grow up and never use the same bathwater..that's just yucky
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Would be absolutely fine with a Conny turning up and looking totally different/updated. We manage to get over entire species of aliens being redesigned depending on the requirements of the project and I don't think the design of the 1701 should be any different.
It doesn't matter that DIS looks totally different to TOS, in the same way that it doesn't matter that TMP looks totally different to TWOK, etc etc. The visuals should serve the story that is being told now, today, on this project, not the demands of blinkered fans who think it's reasonable to expect a 2017 TV show to maintain visual consistency with one from the middle of the *previous century*.
It doesn't matter that DIS looks totally different to TOS, in the same way that it doesn't matter that TMP looks totally different to TWOK, etc etc. The visuals should serve the story that is being told now, today, on this project, not the demands of blinkered fans who think it's reasonable to expect a 2017 TV show to maintain visual consistency with one from the middle of the *previous century*.
Being a "made-up term" does not invalidate its legitimacy. Words like "reboot," "reimagining" and "retcon" used to be just labels made up by fans, then they became the thing we call these things, used by the producers and writers of these franchises.
Here's how I now look at things. The visuals are merely a "lens" by which one looks at the events in Trek continuity. There is absolutely nothing to prevent the entirety of TOS, for example, from happening exactly as we originally saw it, except with the visual style we are now seeing in DSC.
Similarly, from the point of view of TOS, everything that we are now seeing in DSC still happened, just in the original series style. For example, the USS Discovery (when viewed through that lens) had TOS style uniforms, jellybean controls, etc. Yet the exact same events we're now seeing, still happened.
The visuals are independent of the actual continuity. It doesn't mean parallel universes or timelines. Just different ways of interpreting the same events.
Similarly, from the point of view of TOS, everything that we are now seeing in DSC still happened, just in the original series style. For example, the USS Discovery (when viewed through that lens) had TOS style uniforms, jellybean controls, etc. Yet the exact same events we're now seeing, still happened.
The visuals are independent of the actual continuity. It doesn't mean parallel universes or timelines. Just different ways of interpreting the same events.
I like Hanzhefu's Discovery, but I'm so accustomed to the official one now that it's a bit weird seeing it.
Not true.
And with better acting and writing, too!
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