USS Enterprise (eventually) on Discovery?
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This is beautiful though.
Don't you mean incorrect though? Pixel said they're still re-imagining the Connie in the prime universe.
Not meant as a "stab" or at you in particular so much as I can see the complaints coming already, speaking broadly. We don't have all the information but the speculation is starting and slanting towards the negative and its frustrating.Again, I don’t know if that "friendly stab" is for me but if it is you couldn’t be more wrong. I happen to like that "wireframe" and I’d be perfectly happy whether it’s a Terran/Mirror refit or a Prime redesign. Go figure!
Both of those had built-in excuses:
- The TMP Refit...well, it's a refit, what more do ya need?
- The Kelvinverse version gets a free pass as well, simply because (at the point of divergence) Starfleet got all the sensor data it needed from the Narada and thus that's why all the tech in this timeline is so much more advanced.
Not to mention we've seen Connies before DIS. The Cage establishes what the Constitution class looks like. It wouldn't make sense for it to look the way it does, Get redesigned only to go back to looking the way it does before the redesign 10 years later in TOS.
That’s also plausible, yes.
Personally I cried of joy when I first saw the TMP refit in all its flyby magnificence.
No. It is a refit. It is also the most beautiful starship ever.
Almost, it is pretty hideous. But at least it was in a parallel universe that I can ignore.
Actually, if you re-watch the scene, no one except Tyler is looking at the display. And he just keeps staring at it -- in my mind, he's saying "WTF kind of Connie redesign is that??"
Are you blind?
I'm fine them updating it a bit as long as they keep the basic shape and proportions. This is not the case with this one. I.e. any redesign that would be visible on such a simplified wireframe is way too far.
Cage Enterprise looks like what it was, a really cool model made for a TV show pilot in the mid 1960's. It would not look right now. It's been discussed to death, but I there's no way that model would look right. For starters it was designed with completely different lighting than is used now or at any point since TOS ended. DSC films space as dark, which unless you're close up near a star, it is. A TOS Connie would be impossible to see on the screen unless its understood they have some glowing smooth skin for unknown technological dead end. Audiences who are not TOS fans would find it ridiculous, and honestly by now there have been enough love letters to TOS.
Agreed. That kind of system was almost inherently wicked from every standpoint. There was no way it could have benefited those who lived under it, and hopefully history is shut of it forever, before long.
Unless it isn't the Enterprise, and that look was another upgrade.
Yes yes because "Modern audiences" wouldn't accept it, I've heard it hundreds of times and even now it's still a dumb excuse. Guess what. I am the modern audience. I'm 26 and have been a Star Trek fan for 10 years. I see nothing wrong with the Constitution Class design and I don't think it should be redesigned. Since it's a prequel it should be faithful to such designs.
Guys, you are gonna have to deal with the fact they are changing and updating the look.
It looks nearly identical to the TOS connie, the major change being the pylons.
I'll take that as a 'yes'.
Do I need to make a comparison picture?
Except Discovery is known to be a visual reboot, so the "look" of Connies, Klingons, Klingon ships, starfleet uniforms, and everything else can be thrown right out the window. To expect them to stick to a 1960s aesthetic is ludicrous and I cannot believe how often this has to be explained. It should be common sense. It's mind boggling.
Sucks to be CBS then, because fans are going to riot.
The Enterprise and thus the Constitution Class is one of if not thee most recognizable starships in Sci-Fi history.
Meaning the fact you think only a minority of hardcore fanboys would notice is utterly mind-boggling.
Perhaps I should have used the word "care" instead of "notice."
Has the "visual reboot" been confirmed by the members of the production? Because until it's flat out stated I'm not going for that. It's not ludicrous, It has an established look and should follow it. Beef up the quality of things but follow the look. That's common sense.
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