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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x09 - "Into the Forest I Go"

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Were there any clues to the voq/tyler theory in this episode?. The Tyler flashbacks were very muddled and could be interpreted in different ways. Was Lrell telling him "I won't let them hurt you" some kind of clue?

This episode probably also adds fuel to the Lorca/Garth theory.
 
Were there any clues to the voq/tyler theory in this episode?. The Tyler flashbacks were very muddled and could be interpreted in different ways. Was Lrell telling him "I won't let them hurt you" some kind of clue?.
It seems to be. Nothing that really nails it down. Guess I have to wait until next year to rub it in people's faces (or have it rubbed into mine, either way it goes!)

This episode probably also adds fuel to the Lorca/Garth theory.

Absolutely not.
 
A good balance of closure, loose threads, and, what now? Space battles, check. Hand to hand combat, check. Character moments, check. Sci-Fi gobbledigook, check. This episode fires on all thrusters, and I give it my highest score yet, a 9/10.
 
Were there any clues to the voq/tyler theory in this episode?. The Tyler flashbacks were very muddled and could be interpreted in different ways. Was Lrell telling him "I won't let them hurt you" some kind of clue?

This episode probably also adds fuel to the Lorca/Garth theory.

The surgery had glimpses of Tyler with what looked like a Klingon face - it didn't look like torture but a surgery, changing him from Klingon to Human, with his responses to L'Rell and his PTSD flashbacks giving the impression that he is Voq with a surpressed memory, IMO.
 
I voted 9/10. Best episode yet by far, some real plot development, and it looks like we're going somewhere far more interesting (which I predicted) in January.

Why didn't I rate it 10/10? One reason and one reason alone - because it completely undercut Michael Burnham's character in the first two episodes. In those episodes, her mutiny seemed to be driven by post-traumatic stress from seeing her parents murdered by Klingons as a young child. But in this episode, she was completely calm and collected dealing with Kol, with Ash being the one who became unresponsive due to post-traumatic stress.

If this conflict with earlier development is ignored, it was essentially a flawless episode which finally lived up to the promise of the series however.
 
Unless I'm missing something, I don't see anything Garthesque in the episode. I did catch his kind of blank stare at the news that Admiral Cornwall was rescued, followed by a "neat" expression hearing that they have a Klingon prisoner.

I thought the first flashbacks showed Klingons carving into Tyler with a pizza cutter or somesuch. If it's torture, it's kinda weird that he doesn't have scars (or didn't, at least, when he was hanging out on the Klingon ship).
 
This episode also keeps alive the Mirror Lorca theory. Or at least that Lorca is from a parallel universe. He has an interesting line where he says “time to go home”. IMO he said it in a bit of a peculiar way that maybe he’s trying to go back to his “home” or universe. Also he has been studying ways to jump to different parallel universes.
 
Speaking of the academy, though, did anybody else hear the mention of "Cadet Decker" after the midway point in the episode?

I definitely heard that, especially since I was on the lookout for it after someone mentioned it in the thread (I was a few minutes behind them, I guess).

Didn't think we'd get any Willard Decker mentions after the certain... unpleasantness. Going by Collins' age in TMP (32 in 1979/2273), he'd be about fifteen years old in 2256, but I guess we can age him up a few years. 32 is young for a captain.
 
Going to have to screen cap the debris at the end of the episode. But I doubt there is anything identifiable

I was just thinking about that--I was squinting at the screen, trying to figure out if anything recognizable showed up. Alas it didn't.
 
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