Discovery Renewed for Season 2

[PixelMagic]

Spoiler: If you're right

The nerdrage will be extreme as soon as they realise the E won't look the same. Dibs on not moderating that forum.

Maybe it'll be an easier pill to swallow the second time. We've already been through it once.

 

[Charles Phipps]

This is 2017, you can say Fuck on Star Trek, so you sure as fuck can say clusterfuck on the forum

I prefer to be like Spock and keep my colorful metaphors to myself.

 

[cultcross]

This is 2017, you can say Fuck on Star Trek, so you sure as fuck can say clusterfuck on the forum

Infraction for... oh no wait, you're right.

 

[PixelMagic]

I prefer to be like Spock and keep my colorful metaphors to myself.

They are not the fuck your whales.

 

[Greg Cox]

And there was much rejoicing . . . .

 

[BillJ]

Congratulations to the Discovery cast and crew.

There will be a huge cry of rage from Orville fans.

Why? Discovery's status for season two doesn't change my feelings about The Orville.

I sure hope Orville gets a second season...and maybe those people will knock off the foolishness.

Funny how two threads in the last couple of days that should be exclusively about Discovery, have Discovery fans trying to bait fans of The Orville.

 

[STR]

Yeah, that's what I'm currently worried about with Star Wars. I hate the idea of getting to a point where the attitude changes to "oh, another Star Wars". Trek really suffered that kind of fatigue.

Marvel at least has enough variety and a grand assortment of source material to draw from that they can take a loss like INHUMANS every now and then as long as they have enough winners.

I reached the "oh, another one" stage with Marvel after Avengers 2. It's not that they're bad movies (Iron Man 2 aside) it's that they're really forgettable movies. They haven't had a good villain since Loki.

I like the Marvel Netflix shows, though they have their own issues lately.

TBH, I think the one thing that needs to be considered before *ever* committing to a 2nd concurrent series is "how will this show be different and distinct from Discovery". The TNG/DS9/VOY overlap at least had the benefit of pairing one starship show (alien of the week) with the space station show (recurring antagonists).

 

[Greg Cox]

Funny how two threads in the last couple of days that should be exclusively about Discovery, have Discovery fans trying to bait fans of The Orville.

Possibly because people kept trying to use The Orville (which I enjoy) as a club to bash Discovery, while insisting that The Orville was the "real" Star Trek show?

Just saying.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Possibly because people kept trying to use The Orville (which I enjoy) as a club to bash Discovery, while insisting that The Orville was the "real" Star Trek show?

Just saying.

QFT - As I mentioned earlier, there is no reason these two shows cannot coexist at the same time. They both have great strengths and obvious weaknesses that will hopefully be addressed in the future. They both deserve a chance.

Instead, as usual, there are always people on both sides who are acting like...

And, of course...

 

[BillJ]

Possibly because people kept trying to use The Orville (which I enjoy) as a club to bash Discovery, while insisting that The Orville was the "real" Star Trek show?

Just saying.

It is just funny to see so many bringing up The Orville in a thread that should be celebrating Discovery's success.

 

[Charles Phipps]

Funny how two threads in the last couple of days that should be exclusively about Discovery, have Discovery fans trying to bait fans of The Orville.

The bizarre thing is that for so much complaining about both, it's clear fans are watching both.

So what's the problem?

 

[137th Gebirg]

The bizarre thing is that for so much complaining about both, it's clear fans are watching both.

So what's the problem?

What, indeed? Who da hell knows anymore?

 

[Mudd]

It is just funny to see so many bringing up The Orville in a thread that should be celebrating Discovery's success.

Yeah, folks can't seem to stop looking over their shoulders.

 

[Albinator]

Has anyone mentioned how impressive it is that the show announced a second season after just a third of the first has aired? Most shows wait until at least the latter half of the season to announce renewal, more commonly after the end of the season entirely.

 

[BillJ]

Has anyone mentioned how impressive it is that the show announced a second season after just a third of the first has aired? Most shows wait until at least the latter half of the season to announce renewal, more commonly after the end of the season entirely.

TNG was renewed in mid-November of 1987. So not a Trek first.

 

[BillJ]

http://www.tvobscurities.com/articles/syndicated_1987/

Star Trek: The Next Generation
The return of Star Trek to television was a highly anticipated event. Star Trek: The Next Generation, created by Gene Roddenberry, premiered during the week of September 28th, 1987. Some fifty network affiliates pre-empted network programming to broadcast the premiere during prime time; at least nine ABC affiliates planned on continuing to air series in place of low-rated Once a Hero [4]. In several major markets, including Los Angeles, Denver and Miami, the two-hour premiere easily beat its network competition (with ratings of 21.2/29, 17.0/28 and 17.3/25, respectively) [5]. It came in second in Detroit, Houston and San Francisco; in New York City it was third [6].

Overall, in Nielsen’s fifteen major markets, the premiere averaged a 21 share and, more importantly, an impressive 300% improvement in share over the comparable year-ago numbers in those same markets [7]. Ratings for the series were so good, in fact, that Paramount renewed Star Trek: The Next Generation for a full second season in November 1987 [8]. The series ultimately ran for seven seasons and 178 episodes, with the last first-run episode airing in May 1994.

 

[Albinator]

My hope would be that since sets are built and ready, cast is signed (and they may have asked for priority consideration over other projects the cast may be getting put their way) and it would be down to scripts and other normal pre-production work (as opposed to creating the series from scratch), CBS will make a push to start filming mid-2018. They have a hit, and they're going to want to strike while the iron is hot, unlike Paramount's pace with the movies. The resources are there, they should be able to start filming after the cast has had some down time to relax and recuperate.

There will also be 4-6 new exclusive shows debuting between now and 2019. Possibly more. The other thing to consider is, with more content, more Trek fans who did not shell out for CBSAA in 2017, will subscribe and binge watch season 1 during the hiatus, feeling the entry price is more palatable.

One of the biggest values DSC provides is not just subscribers when it's new, but additional content for the service in perpetuity. In August 2017, the service had something like 725 episodes of Trek available to stream.

In 2018, there will be 15 more in their library.

 

[Albinator]

http://www.tvobscurities.com/articles/syndicated_1987/

Trek first or not, still impressive.

 

[Ometiklan]

I personally would not count on that. There is a vocal minority of people who want a 24th century show, but I don't think that has mass audience appeal. The Federation would be too overpowered anyway with transphasic torpedos and that batman hull armor. Hard to write interesting plots when you are god-like powerful.

So the writers would just have to invent transphasic shields (like how Voyager developed those temporal shields due to the temporal torpedoes). There is no technobable you can't defeat by simply inventing a technobable counter. The problem is not with the Federation technology becoming too powerful - just avoid JJ-style universe breaking technology with no counter or stated drawback and there is no problem. The stories will always survive on the characters, mysteries, and universe building aspects regardless of the name applied to the current "shield" technology.

 

[Albinator]

So the writers would just have to invent transphasic shields (like how Voyager developed those temporal shields due to the temporal torpedoes). There is no technobable you can't defeat by simply inventing a technobable counter. The problem is not with the Federation technology becoming too powerful - just avoid JJ-style universe breaking technology with no counter or stated drawback and there is no problem. The stories will always survive on the characters, mysteries, and universe building aspects regardless of the name applied to the current "shield" technology.

Your point is well taken, and proof that it would be ridiculous. Technobabble to get around technobabble. BOOORRRIIINNNNGGG.