Discovery Renewed for Season 2

[cwellslovell]

Ok... I have to be honest and admit I have been illegally streaming DIS so far. But only because all my other Trek is available on Netflix and Amazon still. I know those CBS contracts go until 2019 right? When all the Trek is under All Access streaming exclusively I will totally fork up for it, but I'm already paying $20 a month for the other two. Lo siento mi amigos.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Twin Peaks went 26 years in between season 2 & 3.

Although not as bad as Peaks, X-Files went 14 years (not counting the movies) and Samurai Jack went 13.

Ok... I have to be honest and admit I have been illegally streaming DIS so far...

I have to be honest and admit the mods probably aren't going to like that statement.

Jus' sayin'...

 

[Apollo7]

I was happy to read about the renewal just now.

 

[Krandor]

Oh oh, where? I wanna see.

Midnight Edge

 

[PixelMagic]

Midnight Edge

Bizarre. I hate The Orville, but I don't want it to fail. I'd be perfectly happy for it to be renewed so that people that like it can continue to enjoy, and the cast & crew can continue working on it. Why someone would actively want and then be upset that Discovery didn't fail is beyond me.

 

[CorporalClegg]

RC COLA BITCHES!

Yup. Exactly.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Bizarre. I hate The Orville, but I don't want it to fail. I'd be perfectly happy for it to be renewed so that people that like it can continue to enjoy, and the cast & crew can continue working on it. Why someone would actively want and then be upset the Discovery didn't fail is beyond me.

I'm old enough to remember original series fans wanting The Next Generation to fail, then Next Generation fans actively wanting Deep Space Nine to fail, and then Deep Space Nine and Voyager fans each wanting the other show to fail. Stupidity is nothing new.

 

[137th Gebirg]

...And then Enterprise actually failed.

 

[Albinator]

I can't understand why anyone would want a show to fail. I think Orville is garbage-- and I just don't care what happens to it. If it runs 20 highly rated seasons, it's no skin off my back!

And for those saying Discovery's renewal was a foregone conclusion? No, it wasn't. If it was badly reviewed, if nobody watched, if subscriber numbers didn't see a big jump-- you can bet it would not have gotten a second season.

Some might say "well of course it saw an increase in subscribers, it's Star Trek!" As if the huge swaths of Trek fans insisting they would not subscribe isn't proof enough that nothing was a foregone conclusion.

If the show had not been well received, fans would not have subscribed, fans would not be sticking around, and viewership would not keep increasing. The only reason i'll be renewing my subscription is because the show is great. If i'd had to pay $5 a month for Enterprise, i'd not have watched it.

 

[cultcross]

Ok... I have to be honest and admit I have been illegally streaming DIS so far. .

Discussion of illegal downloads is against the site rules; please don't bring this topic up again.

 

[PixelMagic]

I suspect the people that want Discovery to fail are hoping that if Discovery fails they'll go back to making 'real, old Star Trek' which will never happen. They are delusional. "I want Discovery to fail so they will make Captain Worf, Axanar, or whatever other delusional bullshit would never happen in a million years!"

 

[Mudd]

I remember some people here being sure that if Enterprise failed the studio would "learn their lesson" and return to making...whatever it was they wanted made instead. Something in the 24th century I imagine.

Instead, the studio rebooted TOS, recast everyone and redesigned the Enterprise. Surprise!

The Star Trek that became a biggish phenomenon in the 1980s and 90s is over, now, and it's not coming back.

Midnight Edge

Indebted to them for this, now.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

Midnight Edge

I had to take a peak. So much denial. Do much flummoxing. That they can't fathom why it's successful and has an audience is kind of cute. Some even suggesting CBS only got Netflix onto S2 because they suckered them into it.

This is what happens when outrageous claims made on those videos of theirs are confronted by reality. All the rumors and speculation that the show will be cancelled, all that hyperbole they've latched into now rendered worthless a few weeks later.

The last time I saw something like this was a subgroup of Bond fans (most notably craignotbond.com) that hated Daniel Craig's casting and confidently predicted that Casino Royale would be a critical and financial disaster. Ten years later Craig is signed on to film his fifth and final Bond flick, after a having a run that is the most popular and financially successful since Connery's.

Ten years later Midnight's Edge will still be that obscure group that feeds on corporate conspiracie theories as a feeble way to insist that Disco isn't that successful.

 

[McDuff]

I can't understand why anyone would want a show to fail.

I can see only one reason. You love at least one of the previous Star Trek and don't like the direction of the new Star Trek show. You want it to fail because you fear the "new direction" will become the standard direction for Star Trek if it succeed too much.

The Orville or any new Sci-fi shows don't have an already established fan base and name recognition ($$).

Personally, I feel it's too soon to know if Discovery is too much a departure from the Star Trek I love (TOS, TNG, DS9 and Voyager).

Although, I'm on the opinion that there's no point in doing a Star Trek show if it's not Star Trek (that is, like TOS, TNG, DS9, Voyager and even Enterprise) in spirit (style, content, overall concept, etc). It would only be a marketing ploy to use the Star Trek name. For name recognition. Sure I like other shows than Star Trek like Stargate, Doctor Who, GoT, Spartacus, Rome, CSI, etc, but if people want to do another type of space action-adventure show, now matter how great it eventually becomes, they don't have to use the name Star Trek and change it for something completely different. They can start their own series. Torchwood was fine/great because it was actually a spin-off, not a new Doctor Who with a completely new style. Torchwood would have been an absurdity if it was the new updated style of Doctor Who.

 

[Vger23]

The planet will split open beneath us and demons will spill out if the sets and uniforms don't match that particular episode exactly.

Oh man...I can't wait!!!!

Hahah!

Ya know, why not? I have cryptically dropped several hints about this several times on this forum and no one caught on. Lol. I've heard this from several sources now, so spilling the beans won't get any one person in trouble. Now, mind you, what I'm going to say was in consideration late summer 2016. So I don't know if these plans are still concrete. Also, possible SPOILERS IN THE PARAGRAPH BELOW.

Spoiler: Season 2 Discovery Spoilers

Last I heard (late summer 2016) CBS is considering having the Enterprise show up in some fashion at the end of Season 2 in an episode of Discovery. This will launch a spin-off show about the Enterprise's missions under Pike that will air during Discovery's downtime and visa versa. Whether this is still CBS's strategy going forward...I don't know. Maybe they've changed their mind now and will do something else. This was just the last information I heard which may or may not still be accurate.

<Spoiler tag added by cultcross - that's big enough to deserve two warnings >

 

[Albinator]

Personally, I feel it's too soon to know if Discovery is too much a departure from the Star Trek I love (TOS, TNG, DS9 and Voyager).

It's not too soon, and the answer is no. Discovery is very much in the spirit of Trek.

 

[Vger23]

I can see only one reason. You love at least one of the previous Star Trek and don't like the direction of the new Star Trek show. You want it to fail because you fear the "new direction" will become the standard direction for Star Trek if it succeed too much.

The Orville or any new Sci-fi shows don't have an already established fan base and name recognition ($$).

Personally, I feel it's too soon to know if Discovery is too much a departure from the Star Trek I love (TOS, TNG, DS9 and Voyager).

Although, I'm on the opinion that there's no point in doing a Star Trek show if it's not Star Trek (that is, like TOS, TNG, DS9, Voyager and even Enterprise) in spirit (style, content, overall concept, etc). It would only be a marketing ploy to use the Star Trek name. For name recognition. Sure I like other shows than Star Trek like Stargate, Doctor Who, GoT, Spartacus, Rome, CSI, etc, but if people want to do another type of space action-adventure show, now matter how great it eventually becomes, they don't have to use the name Star Trek and change it for something completely different. They can start their own series. Torchwood was fine/great because it was actually a spin-off, not a new Doctor Who with a completely new style. Torchwood would have been an absurdity if it was the new updated style of Doctor Who.

There's also no point in doing Star Trek that just re-hashes and re-visits the same themes, character types, structure, etc. that has been done 700 times already either though.

That's one of the reasons DS9 was so good. It dared to do something different with the formula.

 

[McDuff]

There's also no point in doing Star Trek that just re-hashes and re-visits the same themes, character types, structure, etc. that has been done 700 times already either though.

Your failure of imagination is only yours. It's like the new Doctor Who. It's different but similar at the same time. When you have talents in the writing staff, the task doesn't seem so daunting. It's easy to make something old new again without changing the main aspects of it. The reasons we love it in the first place. DS9 was fine as a Star Trek show, so I'm with you, on this. (IMO, Doctor Who, The Orville-thus far and Stargate also have the same style than Star Trek in spirit).

 

[SJA]

Congratulations to the Discovery cast and crew.



Why? Discovery's status for season two doesn't change my feelings about The Orville.



Funny how two threads in the last couple of days that should be exclusively about Discovery, have Discovery fans trying to bait fans of The Orville.

Role reversal? Not that I approve but it's a bit rich for Orville fans on here to be playing the victims...

 

[cultcross]

This is not Discovery vs. Orville: Redux. Discovery has been renewed - that topic has nothing to do with the Orville.