Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x04 - "The Butcher's Knife Cares Not for the Lamb's Cry"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Oct 8, 2017.

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  1. Charles Phipps

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  2. Crazy Eddie

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    At the very strong risk of being flamed for this: The conservative mindset is nothing more complicated than a series of calculated knee-jerks. It is entirely possible -- in fact, should be expected -- for conservatives to hold multiple contradictory views on issues that affect them personally, simply because they are never required to express those contradictory views AT THE SAME TIME.

    No joke. I know a lady who once went on a six minute rant about how Barrack Obama shouldn't be trusted with any real authority because being mixed meant he didn't have a clear sense of his social standing in America and that made him dangerous. When two hours later I pointed out that her husband was mixed, she looked me dead in the eye and asked "Why do you say that like it's a bad thing? That's a very negative attitude!"

    I mention this because this lady is also a die-hard trekkie and has been for many years. And she, like many trekkies -- and many conservatives -- has a MASSIVE capacity for cognitive consonance that almost borders on schizophrenia.
     
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  3. MvRojo

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    Profit and Lace is so bad, and kinda offensive. I also think Voy's "The Fight" sucked.
     
  4. Quinton O'Connor

    Quinton O'Connor Commodore Commodore

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    Bold prediction: Burnham's and Voq's stories are paralleling one-another.

    Voq was T'Kuvma's protege, Burnham was Georgiou's. Burnham was disgraced; Voq was exiled. Burnham had to get in with Lorca; Voq apparently has to get in with the matriarchs of House Mokai. They'll both "train for battle" now against one-another and they'll ultimately come to an understanding and end the season together against Kol and possibly a Federation adversary too.
     
  5. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Burnham Killed T'Kuvma, and Voq ate Georgou.

    Voq was disowned and Burnham was orphaned.

    Michael has a boy's name, and Voq has a girls name.
     
  6. Quinton O'Connor

    Quinton O'Connor Commodore Commodore

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    Oh right. Voq ate Georgiou. Hmm. That might make things more difficult.
     
  7. Agony_Boothb

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    I'm sure there are people in this forum that are of the opinion that Burnham is so awful, she would have eaten T'kuvma given the opportunity, :D
     
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  8. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Humans do not enslave animals for meat any more, unless that doesn't happen for almost another century... Unless that is just something Riker says to pick up alien strange.
     
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  9. Charles Phipps

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    One wonders how that will affect ecologies that depend on husbanded animals.
     
  10. Guy Gardener

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    Not a lot of ecology left standing after World War III.

    Although, the Vulcans would have faked some ecology while rebuilding for us.

    What a bunch of stand up blokes. :)
     
  11. Psion

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    "We found T'Nank's body ... by the river; it's waters red with blood. Which of us had slain him, no one could say for certain. So ... we cut out his heart and all three of us feasted on it together."

    Who has a problem with Klingon cannibalism again?
     
  12. Guy Gardener

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    Every one knows that "heart" is Klingoneese code for butthole.
     
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    In the pilot, I thought they looked like Cylon raiders, but you're not far off in this one.
     
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  15. CardassianAssassin

    CardassianAssassin Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    If anyone watched Dunkirk recently, they might have remembered the Spitfire pilot shooting his flare gun into the wreck of his Spitfire, and the plane subsequently burning up, to prevent the Germans from recovering anything.

    And that was just a regular fighter plane with nothing special aboard.

    Scuttling your ship/plane is standard operating procedure for anyone in the military, and that the writers of Star Trek apparently didn’t know this (or address WHY it wasn’t scuttled) is a huge oversight.
     
  16. Refuge

    Refuge Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Just finished watching it. Depressing. 4.
     
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  17. Retu

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    So Tiger 131 shouldn't be at Bovington Tank Museum?

    In any case, the scene at the ready room on Shenzhou showed that the place was pretty much stripped clean, so clearly someone made a sweep after the battle to remove anything useful. Plus the telescope made it off the ship somehow. I don't think the Klingons would mail that to Burnham. I guess Starfleet figured that it wasn't worth to scuttle an old science vessel.
     
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    The Spore Whisperer.

    I predict that Georgio and Landra will reappear in the promised mirror universe episodes.
     
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    It's the 24th century, they shouldn't have to hide the fact that they like eating each others buttholes
     
  20. IronMaiden

    IronMaiden Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Yet you like discovery but not enterprise, you fucking haters make me want to kill myself.

    enterprise is more trek then discovery, also fuck all the Voyager haters too.
     
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