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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x04 - "The Butcher's Knife Cares Not for the Lamb's Cry"

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I'm still hoping for the quality of the show to be elevated to a mediocre level. I'm also optimistic about the second season. Besides, it doesn't take much time to watch an episode. However, I admit, everything we've seen so far has not been up to even the lowest Trek standards.

"Move Along Home" begs to differ. "Threshold". "Spock's Brain." "A Night in Sickbay". "Code of Honor". Etc.
 
Season 2 had Carbon Creek, which I believe was nominated for a HUGO! It also had dead stop, regeneration, future tense...I have to go look now. Season 2 rocks

Yeah, that was a great episode. It also had Precious Cargo, which is certainly in my bottom 5 worst hours of Trek. I think only Spock's Brain and Profit and Lace are worse.
 
That's s right. Seth MacFarlane showed up in both of the Klingon Augment arc episodes. At the time, though, he was nowhere near as well-known and recognizable as he is now.
 
I've always felt ENT season 2 got a bad rap. I think it's only problem was it was too much like Voyager - and I don't mean in terms of quality but scope.

In fact, it's always been season 3 that inevitably kills the show for me. And, in fact, there are several episodes there that I haven't seen since their initial run.
 
I feel like this show is getting a verrrry generous grading curve here.

New episodes always generate excitement. I see it over at the big Doctor Who forum -- every ep gets mostly 8s, 9s and 10s. Time eventually makes the necessary adjustments, and you can't begrudge fans being fans of the show they're ranking.

The best part of the ep for me was Lorca piping the distress call throughout the ship. That was stone cold!
 
Ripper killed the crew of the Glenn, by driving into the radiation wall on purpose becuase of the pain it felt from being stuck in a bridal.

They need to figure out super morphine to keep Ripper happy while figuratively slicing it's brain with razor blades.

The thread about Landry and Lorca doing it is about to take a dark turn, if they only start hooking up post mortem.
 
I've always felt ENT season 2 got a bad rap. I think it's only problem was it was too much like Voyager - and I don't mean in terms of quality but scope.

In fact, it's always been season 3 that inevitably kills the show for me. And, in fact, there are several episodes there that I haven't seen since their initial run.

Season 3 is overrated. At its best, it felt like a cheap knockoff of DS9. Except they didn't bother even thinking things through in the writing room (just it "Xindi weapon" and "Xindi homeworld"? Really? ). And the level in which it was a season long arc was oversold because about 2/3rds of it had nothing to do with the greater arc except that the Enterprise was wandering around in the Delphic Expanse looking for the McGuffin.
 
Then again why the hell is a ship named Enterprise about the only vessel available whenever something enormous and threatening to the very existence of life on Earth shows up to attack this planet? Starfleet has some of the most lax defensive perimeter planning I've ever seen. ;)

yeah, that defense vs the Borg at Saturn was pathetic.
 
Yeah, that was a great episode. It also had Precious Cargo, which is certainly in my bottom 5 worst hours of Trek. I think only Spock's Brain and Profit and Lace are worse.
'Bounty' was another 'classic' from that season...
 
It had a Carradine brother and James Cromwell. That was about it. Oh, and it mentioned Conan O'Brien during a time travel episode but we never saw any other celebrities nor their names pop up in the series.
Dean Stockwell, Peter Weller...I'm sure there's more. All of the shows were big on guest stars.
 
I feel like this show is getting a verrrry generous grading curve here.
Not from me. I disliked the first two episodes, thought the third was good, and think the fourth is good. Tastes vary, certainly, but if I didn't like it, I'd say so.

And Kirk would purse his lips, nod in approval and then glance over to subtly flirt with Burnham.
And the Tardigrade.
 
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