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Lorca: Fans Will Have To Adjust

Or maybe Lorca is replaced at some point with the shape-shifting Garth of Izar! :shifty:
 
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FYI - Alec Peters suggests they are BECAUSE he took said idea from said Star Trek RPG sourcebook. ;)

I was probably giving tEh AleX more credit than he deserves, but true. :p

But again, if they do something with the 'Garth; character/history that really adds something to their actual story, I'm all for it.

And that's the key. I hope that Sarek and Mudd are brought into the story because they're the only characters who can do something in the series, not just because, "Oh, we have a new Star Trek series set before the original. Let's bring in Spock's dad and um.... the guy who introduced the Tribbles! No! The guy with the space hookers and the androids!" Honestly, if that's the case, it might annoy me a bit, but I'll get over it. But, Garth, just because he's such an issue these days, in regards to Axanar, it REALLY needs to be for a good reason.

Or maybe Lorca is replaced at some point with the shape-shifting Garth of Izar! :shifty:

Oy... :p
 
I think it would be worth it just to see Alec Peters' head explode. The sheer entertainment value of it all would be priceless.

Well, I can't deny the fact it would be entertaining. My thought was always to just to mention that Axanar was a battle against, oh, I don't know, the Tzenkethi (I really have no idea if that's even feasible with existing continuity... I just threw out a race) and suggest the Ares was a garbage scow that was captained by Peter Burnett and was destroyed in a tragic accident due to an incompetent commander that spread 1.4 million metric tons of garbage throughout the sector.
 
Some of the novels have the Enterprise B kicking off the Tzenketh conflicts into the early 24th century, where I think DS9 implied they all took place.

The Four Years war, could be against anyone but them or the Romulans, or Ferengi, or Car...

Actually yeah it's likely the Klingons.
 
Some of the novels have the Enterprise B kicking off the Tzenketh conflicts into the early 24th century, where I think DS9 implied they all took place.

The Four Years war, could be against anyone but them or the Romulans, or Ferengi, or Car...

Actually yeah it's likely the Klingons.

Four Years War didn't necessarily happen in continuity.

The Battle of Axanar did. And really it doesn't matter who it is Starfleet is fighting. The idea that its something that allowed Kirk and Spock to work together as brothers indicates somehow the Vulcans were involved. I wonder if it has to do with a civil war in the Federation. That would be far more interesting than fighting the Klingons. AGAIN.

But again, it doesn't matter. Personally, I just want to de-legitimize Peters. :p
 
Well it's more than Discovery wants to keep things to audiences, not hardcore fans, so they'll go with the simplest answer. So Klingons.
 
What I hope they don't do - is just mention it to 'name drop' Captain Garth, and ST: D already is bringing in a lot of 'small-world' syndrome (Harry Mudd and Sarek related to the Main character in some way) in what is supposed to be a large universe.
I have a different take on the "Small Universe" issue.

It is in fact a large universe (or "large quadrant", as the case may be), and there are in fact a lot of other Federation vessels out there that are crewed by a lot of other Starfleet personnel. However, the stories to which we are privy are just a small part of that -- a part that happens to be related to other Star Trek TV shows and films we saw in the past.

While there is a large amount of other unrelated stuff still going on elsewhere in the quadrant and on other unrelated ships with other unrelated people, we aren't being told those stories, but rather we are being told these stories -- stories that revolve around new characters who may have a connection to old established characters, such as Burnham and Sarek.
 
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I don't see him being Garth. I think that character might show up at some point. I am thinking he might be a undercover Klingon. KInd of like the guy from the Tribbles episodes. Heck I could even see him being a young version of Gorkon which would explain why he was willing to talk peace with the Federation. He had a history with working with them and trusts them to a degree.

Jason
 
When you think about all the known adversaries the Federation faced in the 2250s that were revealed in canon there aren't many. The Romulans are still in isolation on their side of the Neutral Zone, the Sheliak signed the Treaty of Armens with the Federation in 2255 ending that conflict and the Tholians are prowling around on the frontier but other than those species it's basically just the Klingons, and they were described in Star Trek VI has having been in a state of "unremitting hostility" with the Federation for seventy years at that point, which would date the beginning of the state of war or near-war between the two powers in or around 2223.

It's the Klingons. Short of some other alien race being pulled out of a hat, it'll be the Klingons.
 
The Sheliak would be a n interesting, if seemingly random, inclusion and connection to TNG. But it does fit the time period exactly.
 
If we are looking for familiar villians the Xindi of course could be brought back. Also who is to say some friendly aliens in the future didn't start off as villians such as the cat people that M'ress I think her name is, comes from. The Bolians have almost no backstory. We only know they were in conflict with a race called the Moropa I think it was called in that ep were Picard is abducted and a replaced by a copy. The Orion syndicate could still be used though it would be nice to see some actual Orions.

Jason
 
I have a different take on the "Small Universe" issue.

It is in fact a large universe (or "large quadrant", as the case may be), and there are in fact a lot of other Federation vessels out there that are crewed by a lot of other Starfleet personnel. However, the stories to which we are privy are just a small part of that -- a part that happens to be related to other Star Trek TV shows and films we saw in the past.

While there is a large amount of other unrelated stuff still going on elsewhere in the quadrant and on other unrelated ships with other unrelated people, we aren't being told those stories, but rather we are being told these stories -- stories that revolve around new characters who may have a connection to old established characters, such as Burnham and Sarek.

That's actually how I've always looked at it.
 
Or, simply enough, writers get to choose who and what they want to write about.

It's not surprising that people who want to write Trek want to springboard off of previous stories and characters. It's not as if there's any kind of mandate to drop into the "universe" at some entirely random time and place.
 
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