Agents of SHIELD - Season 2 Discussion Threads. (Spoilers Likely)

[Guy Gardener]

If he figures out/if he's told that Simmons is a head Simmons... Is he going to forgo gentlemanly behaviour?

If head Simmons is true to herself (which is him) then she will resist any romantic advances.

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I just pushed play on the new episode of Saving Hope. Daniel Jackson form Stargate can talk to coma patients as if they are walking around Ghosts/avatars... his exfiance Lois from Smallville (It's season 3! You should be watching this!) is in a coma and he is having conversations with her ghost/avatar, and he just said "C'mon, I want to see that spirit of yours get naked" because he's playing strip poker with a ghost.

 

[DEWLine]

What if he already knows, and is using the hallucinations as a form of self-medication for now?

Not sure that I have any evidence for/against the theory, but I'm going to throw it out here and see how the evidence accumulates on the show.

 

[The Old Mixer]

It's easier to see on the toy because it's brighter:

OK, at least with the toy I can see where people are getting the idea...but it still seems like a reach. The markings seem more unlike that alike to my eye.

 

[Guy Gardener]

What if he already knows, and is using the hallucinations as a form of self-medication for now?

Not sure that I have any evidence for/against the theory, but I'm going to throw it out here and see how the evidence accumulates on the show.

This is exactly what was happening on Perception (Will from Will and Grace is a bipolar neuropsychologist who teams up with FBI agent Josie form Josie and Pussycats (the Movie) to solve murders. Half way through season three People! You should be watching! (Anything that makes it to season three deserves reapprasal despite any reservations you decided after seeing the pilot that made you quit or not even attempt it.)). In season one we finally found out that they had been fight clubbing us and he had made up his girlfriend, and then in season 2, we found out that the figment exgirlfriend/bestfirend is based on a real person he met in passing 20 years earlier, and he tries to date them both. It did not end well.

The core of "Perception" is that a guest actor each week plays a fantasy/delusion (some times humorously historical figures)that helps "Will" help the FBI solve the murder of the week.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

It's easier to see on the toy because it's brighter:

OK, at least with the toy I can see where people are getting the idea...but it still seems like a reach. The markings seem more unlike that alike to my eye.

It's literally the same symbol. I blew it up, rotated it, and colored it red just to make it clear:

 

[Enterprise1701]

It's easier to see on the toy because it's brighter:

OK, at least with the toy I can see where people are getting the idea...but it still seems like a reach. The markings seem more unlike that alike to my eye.

It's literally the same symbol. I blew it up, rotated it, and colored it red just to make it clear:

Actually, if you look at this Guardians of the Galaxy promo image, the paint on Ronan's armor is symmetric, just not done perfectly.

http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/File:Ronan%27s_Armor.png


Hey guys, look at this. The quinjet that Trip and Skye took appears to be the same one that transported Captain America to the helicarrier in The Avengers.

http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/File:Quinjet_42.png

http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/File:AOSQuinjet.png

 

[Guy Gardener]

Ask 20 people to draw the Superman Symbol.

 

[DEWLine]

Hey guys, look at this. The quinjet that Trip and Skye took appears to be the same one that transported Captain America to the helicarrier in The Avengers.

http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/File:Quinjet_42.png

http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/File:AOSQuinjet.png

Or at least assigned to the same squadron.

Guessing that - renumbering of Helicarrier pennants for TWS aside - there really was a "Helicarrier 42" at some point.

 

[Enterprise1701]

Hey guys, look at this. The quinjet that Trip and Skye took appears to be the same one that transported Captain America to the helicarrier in The Avengers.

http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/File:Quinjet_42.png

http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/File:AOSQuinjet.png

Or at least assigned to the same squadron.

Guessing that - renumbering of Helicarrier pennants for TWS aside - there really was a "Helicarrier 42" at some point.

According to the Marvel Cinematic Universe wiki, the helicarrier in The Avengers was "Helicarrier No. 64". And I would think that S.H.I.E.L.D. would give some individualized labeling to their numerous monochrome quinjets so that pilots can tell theirs apart. The marking "IN-01 SHIELD V-6A" on a quinjet being moved onto a helicarrier in The Winter Soldier seems like an individual identifier to me.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I watched 22 - 2121 Jumpstreet today.

(Don't leave the theatre till the credits completely finish.)

It's possible that the first 60 hellicarriers were unimplemented design suggestions or slightly beyond that, who all quit well before anyone started sourcing titanium.

 

[RJDiogenes]

Fitz is a criminal like all Agent's of S.H.I.E.L.D.

If they stuck him in a hospital, they'd have to pay/waste human resources guarding him 24/7 in case Talbot shows up trying to milk his brain roughly for information on their whereabouts.

SHIELD still has medical resources, as evidenced when Fury showed up to pluck Fitz and Simmons out of the ocean. He really needs to be hospitalized for his own protection in his current state. They certainly shouldn't be letting him loose in the lab without supervision-- unless they're just letting him play with harmless toys and he only thinks that he's working.

He is being monitored and they gave him an easy assignment, identify the metal's properties, but they gave him a hard one too, create cloaking tech. I figure they're hoping for a recovery and there's not much more a hospital can do for him, other than straitjacketing him and putting him in a padded room.

Hopefully they're limiting the tech that he's allowed to play with so that he's not a danger to himself or the base. I mean, the kid is hallucinating. Come to think of it, they may not know that he's hallucinating, but they do know he's talking to himself.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Actually, if you look at this Guardians of the Galaxy promo image, the paint on Ronan's armor is symmetric, just not done perfectly.

I don't think that's the best pic. Here is another one.

It's very faded, but I see a little extra slash on the bottom side. Either way, both sides have to work in a medium subject to change. Clearly the concept art or something like that used the extra line and that inspired both the toy and the symbol on the dead Kree's chest (which is more likely than the toy inspiring the dead Kree). However, even if they didn't ultimately match each other perfectly, it's clear the intent was to make it the same.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Now, we'll know something very wonky is going on if Gemma has a Haedfitz with her off in parts unknown too.

Garret could have been lying about being the Clairvoyant.

If there's a telepath at the top of the baddie totem, then this is an interesting move in their part.

 

[DEWLine]

Mildly disappointed that we didn't get a full name for "Idaho"...

http://screencapped.net/tv/shield/displayimage.php?album=58&pid=42208#top_display_media

 

[DEWLine]

And we have a map of HYDRA and SHIELD stuff...

http://screencapped.net/tv/shield/displayimage.php?pid=42859&fullsize=1

 

[Set Harth]

(Don't leave the theatre till the credits completely finish.)

Preaching to the choir.

 

[bbjeg]

And we have a map of HYDRA and SHIELD stuff...

http://screencapped.net/tv/shield/displayimage.php?pid=42859&fullsize=1

I guess you missed my post.

 

[DEWLine]

Saw it, but the screencapped.net link has a sufficiently high detail-visibility level for me.

Looks like Coulson's got allies in Tianjin, Tanegashima, Tokyo, maybe Toorak or Richmond in Queensland...?

 

[Velocity]

Hydra did a much better job recruiting than Shield did

 

[Guy Gardener]

Finding broken people that want to get flush from ruling the world... Not that difficult.

Although was it dishonest not to tell Ward that Hydra are an offshoot of the NAZI party, or did they just mistakenly believe that he must have known because it's general fucking knowledge bestowed to most schoolchildren.

His loophole was that he's an idjit.

In the Cinematic Marvel Universe, I wonder if Hydra played into any of the plots in their version of Hogans Heroes which is probably slightly different from our version of Hogans heroes in the real world?