Which secondary TOS or TAS female character do you want most in XII?

[Pauln6]

Re: Which secondary TOS or TAS female character do you want most in XI

Spock and Uhura break up

Yes please.

This is not impossible. Writers don't like their lovers to have a smooth ride. However, I think it's as likely that they will ride it out because there is as much dramatic potential in culture clash, chain of command conflict and their relationship is still going to be a very minor part of the plot.

Ultimately, I agree that he should dump her and place logic and duty above his emotional needs but I'm not sure that it should happen as early as the next film.

 

[Captain Rob]

Re: Which secondary TOS or TAS female character do you want most in XI

Would like to have seen, or see, PrimeSpock meet nuUhura and go: "You're smaller than I remember. What happened to all of your fun parts?"

 

[Gojira]

Re: Which secondary TOS or TAS female character do you want most in XI

I'd like to see Yeoman Colt, who should be about the same age in the new timeline as she was in "The Menagerie" and "The Cage".

She would get my vote, or yeoman Smith, who was only seen in the second pilot episode. Either of them will do!

 

[Sabataage]

Re: Which secondary TOS or TAS female character do you want most in XI

I can see Yeoman Rand entering the equasion, but as a love interest for Chekov, not Kirk. Chekov and Scotty were essentially fanboy avatars, representing both younger and older viewers. I can see the creative team introducing a new female character who plays the same role as Chekov but isn't burdened with the drama or emotional torque Uhura will be getting. She can just do her job and be excited for being on a starship. (Okay. I'll level with you, I'm envisioning Jewel Staite as Kaylee from Firefly.)

Another possibility is the alien chick with brown scales and chrome eyes. They could give her more to do (as in actual lines to say). After repeated viewings of the climax, I think it would have been cool to see her (a science officer) standing over Chekov's shoulder proof reading his equasions just before he runs over to hell Kirk his theory.

 

[Pauln6]

Re: Which secondary TOS or TAS female character do you want most in XI

I think Smith and Colt are ok but they're cyphers - they had no real personalities to speak of, although Colt did have exceptionally strong female drives... Essentially they are blank slates that would have little more to add than any of the one-off yeomen or any new characters.

I'm pretty much against any of them being love interests for anybody. This is a 2 hour movie not Depsperate Housewives. We have one romance between crew already and it's very likely that Kirk is going to get to feel some external boob (i.e. outside the ship) at some point. Bringing tertiery crew in on the action would be hugely distracting and more to the point: women in Trek do not have to exist primarily to be the girlfriends of the men!

I love Rand to pieces but I don't want her to spend any time doing anything more than throwing a longing glance or jealous look in Kirk's direction; a nod to her origins but give the girl a break and let her shoot someone or something.

 

[Gojira]

Re: Which secondary TOS or TAS female character do you want most in XI

I think Smith and Colt are ok but they're cyphers - they had no real personalities to speak of, although Colt did have exceptionally strong female drives... Essentially they are blank slates that would have little more to add than any of the one-off yeomen or any new characters.

I'm pretty much against any of them being love interests for anybody. This is a 2 hour movie not Depsperate Housewives. We have one romance between crew already and it's very likely that Kirk is going to get to feel some external boob (i.e. outside the ship) at some point. Bringing tertiery crew in on the action would be hugely distracting and more to the point: women in Trek do not have to exist primarily to be the girlfriends of the men!

I love Rand to pieces but I don't want her to spend any time doing anything more than throwing a longing glance or jealous look in Kirk's direction; a nod to her origins but give the girl a break and let her shoot someone or something.

I pretty much agree with you. I wouldn't mind having a yeoman Colt, Smith or Rand on the Enterprise but I don't want them to have a romance with Kirk or anything like that. Just having a character who is named after any of these three would be a nice homage to the original series.

 

[Sabataage]

Re: Which secondary TOS or TAS female character do you want most in XI

It would be hard to justify a new female character on the bridge if her sole purpose was to say "I agree!" or "But what about...?" She needs to have a comedic or romantic aspect to her or else she'll get left out of the loop and be relegated to the background... much like Uhura was on TOS. Just being good at her job isn't enough (though it is important).

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Re: Which secondary TOS or TAS female character do you want most in XI

I'd like to see Yeoman Colt, who should be about the same age in the new timeline as she was in "The Menagerie" and "The Cage".

And what age was that? 15, tops? She was a Kewpie doll. Not at all my thing.

That being said, since this is the Abramsverse and all that, if they must have Colt in the film, she should be totally different than on the show. An ultraviolent phaser-toting hellraiser. With lots of SHOUTING.

 

[Pauln6]

Re: Which secondary TOS or TAS female character do you want most in XI

It would be hard to justify a new female character on the bridge if her sole purpose was to say "I agree!" or "But what about...?" She needs to have a comedic or romantic aspect to her or else she'll get left out of the loop and be relegated to the background... much like Uhura was on TOS. Just being good at her job isn't enough (though it is important).

This is why Chapel is my second choice - I want her to be there but I think that she would probably be relegated to a similar position the one you describe in sick bay.

Rand on the other hand is a more flexible character. The original character concept was as Kirk's right hand girl so she can be on the bridge or anywhere the Captain needs to go. If you look collectively at the various yeomen throughout TOS they frequently went down with Landing Parties and were combat trained.

I don't thnk we need to consider the position of security chief as a principle character because Kirk already fills the action hero role (less so than Picard or Janeway) and the characters are so young it starts to look silly if all the department heads are beautiful twenty-five year olds (with thirty-five year old parents obviously). If a focus on a security-based character is desirable, there is no reason why that could not be Rand (although the original version was revealed to have an electrical engineering background over time i.e. transporters and communications, there is no reason why this needs to form the core of the nuTrek character and in any event O'Brien did both).

Why shouldn't a Captain's Yeoman be trained to defend him or her? I think it would add a great comic dimension if she is a bit too eager to jump in to defend the normally macho and self-confident Kirk, especially against dangerous space bikini-clad alien minxes, maybe with some mud thrown in... erm where was I again?

None of the nu-characters are exactly as they were in TOS so finding a way to incorporate Rand that means she will get something meaningful to do is entirely plausible.
The same holds true for Chapel but in her case making her a nurse instead of focusing on her scientific background means that the only way she will get to shine if she is somewhere without McCoy.

 

[Cicero]

Re: Which secondary TOS or TAS female character do you want most in XI

I'd like to see Yeoman Colt, who should be about the same age in the new timeline as she was in "The Menagerie" and "The Cage".

And what age was that? 15, tops? She was a Kewpie doll. Not at all my thing.

Laurel Goodwin was 22 in late 1964, when The Cage was made, which is more or less the usual age for a 21st Century newly-minted officer. Maybe it's my youth, but I don't think she looks particularly young - she could easily pass for someone in her middle or late 20s (if not the Hollywood versions of those ages, which are typically played by persons 5-10 years older).